Craig4
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What was the body going to tell them hanging there? Maybe they wanted to collect any evidence on the body which would be hard to do with it dangling off the ground.
Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?
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Axxman300
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If he was an undercover agent (as opposed to a well-known high-profile agent) why would anyone find his extra passport in the first place?
Axxman300
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Last month. I started the tear with my toe nail while sleeping (just like they taught me in Illuminati School) and then later tore them into rags for cleaning.
Plus, all you need is a good set of molars.
Which didn't happen.
Clearly. It's hard to get into and out of. They run the place like a prison.
You have to be buzzed into a few areas by another guard.
bruto
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I don't have a strong theory on Epstein's suicide, but my guess is that he did himself in because he realized that he was both theoretically and literally screwed. Every moment new information came to light about his bad activities, and things could only get worse. Prison folks are traditionally pretty hard on his sort, and I don't think he had the kind of character that would take kindly to changing from the screwer to the screwee. Sure, there are other possibilities, most of them pretty far fetched. But imagining the situation Epstein was in, I suspect suicide was the wisest choice.
By the way, it's really not that hard to tear up sheets. You don't start at the hem.
By the way, it's really not that hard to tear up sheets. You don't start at the hem.
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Vixen
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Epstein's maternal grandfather was from Lithuania:
https://www.geni.com/people/Max-Stolofsky/6000000002516567405
And maternal grandmother:
His paternal grandfather was also Russian of some sort:
Paternal grandmother:
His father was Seymour G Epstein:
So it seems there is no way Epstein could have had Austrian citizenship. You would need to prove Austrian descent and/or show residence in Austria for at least five years, if it follows other European countries. In any case, Epstein gave a Saudi Arabian address, so clearly was not resident even as a fraud.
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Vixen
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Epstein was a US citizen. Nowhere on his passport would it say, 'Jewish'. In any case, his Austrian passport (issued by an intelligence agency? [how else would he have it?]) also showed his name, which many would identify as Jewish, thanks to Brian Epstein, who discovered the Beatles.
How does having a fake passport allow him to do his 'creepy stuff'?
In the grand scheme of passports, 32 years is not a long period of time, given they generally last five or ten years. That's only 1988.
abaddon
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He was a criminal. Why is it astonishing to you that criminals do criminal things?
Do you somehow think that criminals are law abiding citizens in all ways, but make special exceptions for only their particular brand of criminality?
Have you no clue how nutty that idea sounds?
Epstein trafficed people as sex slaves, but would be morally obliged to stop short of fake passports? Really?
abaddon
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A false passport can have any name. Duh.
In any case, his Austrian passport (issued by an intelligence agency? [how else would he have it?])
OMG, how naive. 5-10K buys a passport for anywhere.
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Vixen
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Do you know how nutty that sounds?
ETA: OK, so the passport had a fake name.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-news.html
Curiouser and curiouser. Why would a maths teacher (presumably from a reasonably good background) need an Austrian passport?
Perhaps to look up members of the royal family...?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...assport-fake-name-enter-saudi-arabia-n1031046
Since lots of Jews travel to Israel in complete sartorial C17 Warsaw cossacks and clothing (as was on my plane when I went to the Holy Land) this sounds completely implausible.
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bruto
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I think those Jews were traveling in cassocks. I think the Cossacks, though hostile, usually stopped short of eating them. 
Vixen
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I think those Jews were traveling in cassocks. I think the Cossacks, though hostile, usually stopped short of eating them.
Sorry to put the kybosh your cleverness but I did mean cossack hats.
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Axxman300
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Nowhere on my passport does it say "Episcopalian".
Also I'm pretty sure people were onto Epstein families being Jewish before the Beatles.
And if you have money you can buy a quality fake passport with a little effort. Epstein had a little money.
You mean like travel to countries where child-sex is readily available without violating the terms of your parole, or just not showing up on a Customs or FBI database? Maybe even transport cash and deposit it into banks without the IRS knowing.
Axxman300
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In case nobody has figured it out yet, Epstein was killed by a demon conjured by members of his Satanic ring to silence him. That's how it entered the jail without being seen and then possessed him in his sleep and he hanged himself but it was really the demon.
If we're going to get silly then we need to get really stupid.
If we're going to get silly then we need to get really stupid.
BStrong
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Want to know how easy it is to acquire fake documents? try Craigslist:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/for/d/coffee-table-futon-end-table-entry-table/7046158396.html
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Then what you meant was shtreimels. Cossack hats are something entirely different. Orthodox jews do not wear cossack hats.
And in any case, I'm really not understanding what relevance the presence of orthodox jews in their distinctive clothing on a flight to/from Israel has to the question of the ability (or otherwise) of a man with an identifiably-Jewish family name to travel to a Middle Eastern country which is extremely hostile to jews and to Israel....?
Vixen
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In case nobody has figured it out yet, Epstein was killed by a demon conjured by members of his Satanic ring to silence him. That's how it entered the jail without being seen and then possessed him in his sleep and he hanged himself but it was really the demon.
If we're going to get silly then we need to get really stupid.
Yeah, well. You might think you are being facetious but you cannot explain why the cctv cameras outside his cell door were conveniently disabled as of the time of his
Intelligence agents on the other hand (and CIA often ally with Mossad) can and do carry out 'undercover operations'.
No spirit world needed.
Vixen
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Yes, riiight. There is someone in Austria offering Austrian passports with your own photo but a different name and a Saudi Arabian address. Complete with holograms and ID chip.
Riiiight.
And does this shadowy figure stand outside train stations shouting, 'Get your Austrian passport with Saudi address here! Just €4,999.'