Derived Avogadros Equation for:

[Dr. MAS]

We have no control over the potency preparation that is why we claim that homeopathic potencies have molecules and avogadros law is not applicable in actual practice. Avo law is so nice on papers but it has no practical application when the potency is manufactured. When you will understand this concept then do inform me I will teach you few more tips. I am involved in potency making at higher level.

 

[Dr. MAS]

Dear Hans,

Talking on net is something different. I making a plan to invite all randi members to visit pakistan and observe the methods which international pharmacies have adopted. That picture is of willmar schwabe company. A reputed international homeopathic pharmacy. I don't have the idea how the company manufacture the potency but I do have idea about pakistanis. I never visited schwabe pharmacy so I cannot say anyting from my side unless I could have seen the process myself. Thank you sheikh for putting us right.

 

[MRC_Hans]

So, you are claiming tha Avogadro's limit does not apply to practical homeopathy because homeopathic labs are unable to observe the required purity? Well, good, I agree with that. In fact I would be surprised if any of the labs I have seen pictures of could meaningfully produce even 6C.

So, now you need to explain how this is anything but a disadvantage for homeopathy.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Just to sum up, these discussions with MAS & Co have now changed from their claiming that Avogadro's limit was somehow not applicable to homeopathic remedies, to claiming, truthfully, I am sure, that their pharmacies cannot provide the purity of processes to come even near Avogadro's limit in pactical work.

An important and interesting difference.

This is getting fun.

Hans

 

[petre]

We have no control over the potency preparation that is why we claim that homeopathic potencies have molecules and avogadros law is not applicable in actual practice. Avo law is so nice on papers but it has no practical application when the potency is manufactured. When you will understand this concept then do inform me I will teach you few more tips. I am involved in potency making at higher level.

I claim a brick is not a fruit. You disagree. Your proof is that you claim to build walls out of tomatoes, and declare victory. Well done.

 

[Psiload]

Dear Hans,

Talking on net is something different. I making a plan to invite all randi members to visit pakistan and observe the methods which international pharmacies have adopted. That picture is of willmar schwabe company. A reputed international homeopathic pharmacy. I don't have the idea how the company manufacture the potency but I do have idea about pakistanis. I never visited schwabe pharmacy so I cannot say anyting from my side unless I could have seen the process myself. Thank you sheikh for putting us right.

Well... you can see for yourself the process Schwabe uses:

http://www.dhu.com/company_profile.htm

DHU(manufacturer of homeopathic products for Schwabe) feels strongly committed to produce medicines of an outstanding quality. All medicines are produced in compliance with the methods described in the German Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia (HAB). This means that all dilutions are succussed manually.

They've even got a video of the process in action:

http://www.dhu.com/video/dhu.m1v

There... now you know how Schwabe does it... by hand, using the original Hahnemanian method.

Ulike you clowns, who use the use the sloppy, cheap and lazy automated Korsakovian method.

 

[Dr. A Sheikh]

Just to sum up, these discussions with MAS & Co have now changed from their claiming that Avogadro's limit was somehow not applicable to homeopathic remedies, to claiming, truthfully, I am sure, that their pharmacies cannot provide the purity of processes to come even near Avogadro's limit in pactical work.

An important and interesting difference.

This is getting fun.

Hans

This is your opinion not MAS.org opinion. rest is ok

 

[Dr. A Sheikh]

Well... you can see for yourself the process Schwabe uses:

http://www.dhu.com/company_profile.htm

They've even got a video of the process in action:

http://www.dhu.com/video/dhu.m1v

There... now you know how Schwabe does it... by hand, using the original Hahnemanian method.

Ulike you clowns, who use the use the sloppy, cheap and lazy automated Korsakovian method.

This shows your poor knowledge. This also confirms that you have book knowledge only or web site info. This also prove that you have no practical experience. This also shows that you have not seen what pharmacist is preparing and in what way?

Read in detail here
http://www.nch.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=212

 

[Nucular]

This shows your poor knowledge. This also confirms that you have book knowledge only or web site info. This also prove that you have no practical experience. This also shows that you have not seen what pharmacist is preparing and in what way?

Read in detail here
http://www.nch.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=212

Did you mean to link that thread, Sheikh? It shows MAS, back in November, making a hit-and-run post, followed by detailed responses from Hans, John Richard Bsc and others, and ending with confused "hello?"s.

What do you think Sheikh? Do Schwabe use Hahneman's principles to prepare their remedies, or your proposed sloppy "stuff everywhere" circus approach? I'm sure Schwabe would be interested to hear your views too.

 

[Complexity]

This shows your poor knowledge. This also confirms that you have book knowledge only or web site info. This also prove that you have no practical experience.

Quite, true, MAS - I have no practical experience in defrauding people.

 

[MRC_Hans]

This is your opinion not MAS.org opinion. rest is ok

It may not be your opinion, but it is what you have argued. If you argued for something that was not your opinion, that's your problem.

Hans

 

[Dr. A Sheikh]

defraud for what. he does not take consultation fee and charges for medicine.

 

[steenkh]

defraud for what. he does not take consultation fee and charges for medicine.

So, you mean he does not make a living off homoeopathy? What does he do for a living, then?

 

[flume]

Would anyone be able to give me advice on this question:
Has the weight (or mass) of the proton been measured in a way that does not depend on Avogadro's number for its value? I would guess that it has (maybe using supercolliders?) but my chemistry is really not up to the question.

I asked this question over on the NCH board and got a partial response (thanks!) but I'll ask it again here.

(I had thought it might be useful to write up a practical description of how Avogadro's number is used in simple chemistry, for those NCH homeopaths who apparently had missed that part of chemistry. I wanted to explain how Avogadro's number was related to the approximate weight of a proton or neutron, rather than having been plucked out of thin air. But then I thought that someone there might throw this question at me, and I realized I did not know the answer. So I never did post my description.)

 

[Crispy Duck]

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avagadro's_number

The answer to your question appears to be 'yes', but I'm no expert - the Wikipedia page has more info.