Democrats = Antifa = BS

"I just can't figure out the connection between Stop Racism DC and the words that come out of my mouth".

--Tucker Carlson, probably
 
Slings and Arrows said:
“This has to stop. Who are we? What are we becoming? Tucker Carlson is tough & can handle a lot, but he does not deserve this. His family does not deserve this. It’s stomach-turning.”

-- Megyn Kelly (Nov 8, 2018)
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You know what there might, might be a legit point that would at least be fair to put on the table for discussion in all this noise about people who aren't elected leaders, aren't making policy decisions, and who aren't in positions of their own choosing getting caught up in all this.

But I don't need to hear from somebody who doesn't understand why blackface isn't a problem.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I don't need to hear from somebody who doesn't understand why blackface isn't a problem.
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"Crybaby Jim Acosta manhandles a female intern and the leftist press rushes to his defense, but a journalist’s wife and children are terrorized by a Democrat/Antifa mob and the mainstream media couldn’t care less."

-- James Woods (Nov 8, 2018)
 
Slings and Arrows said:
"Crybaby Jim Acosta manhandles a female intern and the leftist press rushes to his defense, but a journalist’s wife and children are terrorized by a Democrat/Antifa mob and the mainstream media couldn’t care less."

-- James Woods (Nov 8, 2018)
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I also don't need copy-pasted Whataboutism from James Wood.
 
varwoche said:
The GOP are foisting this new Democrats/mobs talking point, pointing to Antifa as an arm of the Democratic party. This accusation is being leveled by national figures, and by members of this forum.



I issued a challenge a few weeks ago that went unanswered, so I'm trying again here. Cite a couple of significant Democrat/liberal leaders -- former/current Presidents, Senators, Reps, Cabinet Members, Governors -- who have supported Antifa in any way. I previously expanded the list of significant Democrats so I'll do it again now: You can include NYT/Wapo staff editorialists, CNN hosts, and MSNBC hosts.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...journalists_not_equal_to_fighting_bigots.html
 
Self-identified antifa group "Smash Racism" threaten Tucker Carlson:
Police were called to the Washington, D.C. home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night when a group of protesters showed up and shouted threats.

Smash Racism D.C., which calls itself an "anti-fascist," or Antifa, group, claimed responsibility for the protest on social media. It has previously targeted Ted Cruz, Kirstjen Nielsen, and other right-wing figures.

In videos uploaded to Twitter by the group on Wednesday, participants were heard saying "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!" They called him a "racist scumbag" and hurled epithets.

The Twitter account also shared Carlson's address, which is a violation of Twitter's rules. By late Wednesday night, Twitter had suspended the group, which means the tweets and videos are now deleted.​

CNN's Don Lemon defends "Smash Racism" antifa group.

CNN's Brooke Baldwin defends the same antifa group.
 
The fact that some even bother to waste time defending or even addressing Anti-Fa shows the difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans pretend that Nazis don't even exist.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
"It wasn't a protest. It was a threat. They weren't protesting anything specific that I had said. They weren't asking me to change anything. They weren't protesting a policy or advocating for legislation. They were threatening me and my family and telling me to leave my own neighborhood in the city that I grew up in."

Tucker Carlson
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Oh boo-hoo Carlson.

If he wasn't such a racist pig, he wouldn't piss so many people off. I do feel sorry for his family though. Firstly, they shouldn't be caught up in this (and they wouldn't be if he was a half-decent person), and secondly, they have to put up with him.

I don't advocate threatening people, but I do advocate making the lives of high-profile racists as difficult and as unpleasant as possible, in a non-violent fashion. Constant harassment of openly racist public figures such as heckling them in public and at their speaking engagements is a good way to serve the public good. Something along the lines of what the group "Indivisible" has been doing to drive bad politicians into retiring or withdrawing from elections.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
The fact that some even bother to waste time defending or even addressing Anti-Fa shows the difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans pretend that Nazis don't even exist.
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And as these nazis don't exist clearly everyone who would protest against them is crazy and so is dangerous to everyone else. No right thinking american would ever protest nazis, because there are no nazis in america only fine people who argue for white ethnostates.
 
varwoche said:
Links to youtube videos don't provide quite the specificity I was hoping for. Against my better judgement, I'll watch later on when I have 20 minutes to spare. Next time please provide a time marker, if not a typed quotation.
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Actually, I think theprestige posted that stuff to mock liberals for being so tame.

He voted for and supports a president who celebrates violent criminal assault and inspires pipe-bombers, so I'm sure mere chanting and doxxing seem laughably mild to him.
 
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Mumbles said:
dann said:
I would!
Bertolt Brecht: Many Ways of Killing
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Ah!

Again, don't let me get in your way!
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You won't! :)
By the way, I noticed this quotation above the other one:

Me-ti said: The worst is not having failings, not even resisting them is bad. What’s bad is concealing them. Not to seem what you are, that’s unfortunate for yourself. To seem what you are not is unfortunate for others. How should anyone go into battle on your side, if you haven’t shown them your failings? The effort of appearing to be what you are not already exhausts all your energy for the fight. You’re afraid, for example, that your friend might reject you, if he knew you’re a coward. But what he needs to fear are only the consequences of your cowardice. Even someone who tells lies must at least make his best friends aware of it; he’s not allowed to lie about that.
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Too bad Bertolt Brecht never heard of Donald Trump ...
 
smartcooky said:
Oh boo-hoo Carlson.

If he wasn't such a racist pig, he wouldn't piss so many people off.
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Okay but here's the issue.

It's naive to the point of intentionally being disingenuous to pretend you can keep "The Mob" aimed only at proper targets for very long. A worked up Mob hasn't magically become a rational and balanced force just because it has briefly found itself pointed at a legitimate threat.

You know how this goes and you know what it's going to lead to. Sure you run the racist out of the restaurant. Great pat yourself on the back. Then someone else in your tribe who wants to prove he's just a little purer to the cause then you are runs someone who's not racist but just a little racially insensitive. Then someone one ups them by running someone who just isn't as anti-racist as they think they should be. Then someone will get run out someone for not checking their privilege or some there straw SJW nonsense simply for cause purity reasons.

That's how how causes always collapse. Refining the "enemy" from "I oppose X to I oppose people who don't oppose X to I oppose people who don't oppose X enough for my taste."

And that's not even taking into account that sooner or later someone is going to be wrong. What about the guy eating dinner with his family who just looks like Tucker Carson? Or Alex Jones. Or whatever "PunnyTitle WhitePersonName" is the current viral racial incident on Youtube?

Think that's hyperbole? Think that's a strawman? Think it won't happen?

What about the guy who ran down the protesters in Charlotesville? No wait, not him the guy who's sole sin was selling his Dodge Charger to a car dealer who later sold it to to guy who would almost six months later use it to run down protesters in Charlottesville? The guy who had to flee his home and have police protection for over a week because people tripping over each other to be the first person to "Out the Alt-righter" and "make them famous" to prove their purity to the cause tracked down the license plate number of the car used in the attack via online public records on and didn't bother to fact check or just remember that public records aren't always kept perfectly update to date.

Joel Vangheluwe didn't hurt anybody. Had nothing to do with it. Wasn't even in the same time zone as the incident. Hell he was a Leftist who opposed Trump. But because the cause purity internet sleuths could "7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon" him to racism the Michigan State Police had to put him, his wife, and his children into a safe house.

Go to any Reddit thread, hell any thread here, or hop on Twitter, after an incident and you can find the same mentality. I shouldn't have to explain to anyone how bad that can go.
 
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