Democrats = Antifa = BS

The Norseman said:
Oh, yeah, you're a cop/ex-cop so I'm unsurprised at your stance here but let's make this clear: you don't mind at all at using force or killing "complete idiots" as long as it's done by the government.

IOW, as long as the state has complete monopoly on violence, it's all fine by you. Got it.
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Dude, what the hell?

Maybe you want to inch back towards the center, here. That post was off the deep end.
 
uke2se said:
Perfect use of no-platforming to help stop the spread of the alt-right infection.
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No it isn't.

Threatening innocent third parties (the venue owners) with violence, vandalism and retribution if they allow these people to speak at their venue is not de-platforming, its terrorism.

If you want to stop these people from speaking, direct your threatening at them. Go to the venue and protest outside; hurl abuse at supporters as they enter, get together and get tickets to put hecklers in the audience. Disrupt the event as much as you can within the limits of the law. This will help to bring into the public eye the extent of bilious crap they spout.
 
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smartcooky said:
No it isn't.

Threatening innocent third parties (the venue owners) with violence, vandalism and retribution if they allow these people to speak at their venue is not de-platforming, its terrorism.

If you want to stop these people from speaking, direct your threatening at them. Go to the venue and protest outside; hurl abuse at supporters as they enter, get together and get tickets to put hecklers in the audience. Disrupt the event as much as you can within the limits of the law. This will help to bring into the public eye the extent of bilious crap they shout.
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I thought you cared about free speech. Surely there can be no speech that is dangerous?
 
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LSSBB said:
caveman1917's post. I do believe he has a direct tap to "Antifa"
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If I lose 120lbs, hit someone with a bike lock then wank off in my parents' basement to my secret photo of Milo whilst wearing a mask, will I have a direct link to Antifa too?
 
dudalb said:
One of the worst things about Trump is his de facto encouragement of the far right is also encouraging the Far Left.
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IMO the worst thing about Comandante Boor-O is that his election - an unqualified idiot with nothing more than name recognition and money - will lead to the election of even worse unqualified idiots and they won't necessarily be Democrats or Republicans. I believe this ******* is so narcissistic that he doesn't know and ultimately doesn't care that his behavior has consequence past his immediate gratification.

Trump doesn't care who the hell he associates with, as long as they blow smoke up his ass in the way he prefers. All the hoopla about meeting with Kim Jong-un is a great example. He publicly predicted his success before the meeting, staged just about every aspect as a salute to Jong and NK and declared success after the meeting w/o one thing in hand to back it up. He goes after the leaders of allied nations while practically giving Putin a handy and ignoring every piece of evidence that Putin isn't anything close to being someone that is worthy of trust.

As scummy as his associations with white power mental defectives are, his performance on the international stage has far greater consequence to the U.S. as a nation and the world at large.
 
varwoche said:
No sale. Dems+Antifa is a new GOP talking point. I call BS on it. It's up to you, or anyone else who buys into this nonsense, to provide evidence that Dems support Antifa. See post #1.
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I call BS on it also. Yes, there are a few Dems who are Antifa fellow travelers
but probably fewer then People in the GOP who are sympathetic to the KKK.
 
BStrong said:
IMO the worst thing about Comandante Boor-O is that his election - an unqualified idiot with nothing more than name recognition and money - will lead to the election of even worse unqualified idiots and they won't necessarily be Democrats or Republicans. I believe this ******* is so narcissistic that he doesn't know and ultimately doesn't care that his behavior has consequence past his immediate gratification.

Trump doesn't care who the hell he associates with, as long as they blow smoke up his ass in the way he prefers. All the hoopla about meeting with Kim Jong-un is a great example. He publicly predicted his success before the meeting, staged just about every aspect as a salute to Jong and NK and declared success after the meeting w/o one thing in hand to back it up. He goes after the leaders of allied nations while practically giving Putin a handy and ignoring every piece of evidence that Putin isn't anything close to being someone that is worthy of trust.

As scummy as his associations with white power mental defectives are, his performance on the international stage has far greater consequence to the U.S. as a nation and the world at large.
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THis. ANd it will end with Trump getting us into a bloody new war, mark my words. everything about him, from his obsession with being seen as "tough" and his casual acceptance of violence screams "TThis is somebody who will get us into a war".
I would not be surprised if we end up going to war with North Korea after all, when Trump finds out that Kim has snookered him big time, and Trump starts fight just out of pique.
As for Putin, I am not so sure it's acase of Trumpy trusting Putin, as Trumpy thinking he can somehow exploit Putin ,possibly for sheer personal gain. Of course the idea that Trump can somehow outsmart Putin is delusional. No fan of Vlad, but when it comes to brains Putin clearly has a massive advantage.
What shocks me is that so many in the GOP have to know this, but still support Trump, probably out of fear of his base.
More and more I think the desire for relection overpowering everything else is a cancer in our poltical system, and term limits is the only cure.
 
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Hopefully the Trump experience will sour the American people on the whole idea of Celebrity Presidents again. Not a huge fan of Reagan, but at least he has a pretty solid experience as Governor of California before becoming President.
 
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dudalb said:
I call BS on it also. Yes, there are a few Dems who are Antifa fellow travelers
but probably fewer then People in the GOP who are sympathetic to the KKK.
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Even in an alternate universe where the President of the United States is capable of denouncing David Duke, I have a hard time getting all worked up over members of the Berkeley City Council.
 
dudalb said:
What shocks me is that so many in the GOP have to know this, but still support Trump, probably out of fear of his base.

More and more I think the desire for relection overpowering everything else is a cancer in our poltical system, and term limits is the only cure.
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<Bolding mine.> Bingo.
 
Shorter term limits just mean more time campaigning, less governing; it also hands more power to lobbyists, who know how to draft legislation - unlike a newbie Congressman.
 
Belz... said:
Dude, what the hell?

Maybe you want to inch back towards the center, here. That post was off the deep end.
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Yeah.

@BStrong: I apologize for bringing into the conversation your job/former job. It wasn't necessary for me to make my point.
 
Belz... said:
I think bringing his job into the conversation wasn't the problem. It's the implication that he was part of the so-called "bad apples".
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Oh. Well, that wasn't even implied. I never even once considered him a bad apple in the police department or anywhere else. Never even thought that. The idea I so poorly communicated was that he seemed okay with violence as long as it was against people who are fighting the government. That was my only point.

I don't think violence on behalf of the government is necessarily a good thing.
 
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