Democratic caucuses and primaries

Venom said:
Yikes.

Still, he doesn't believe in public ownership of the means anymore. He said it explicitly.
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Well he will certainly be confronted on this issue and he better be able to articulate his evolution on this subject. Cuz if it appears he's just telling us what we want to hear but he still really wants nationalization, he's toast.
 
One last update of the 538 model before Super Tuesday...

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Frontrunners neck-and-neck, trailing behind the spectre of "no one" winning outright.
 
d4m10n said:
One last update of the 538 model before Super Tuesday...



Frontrunners neck-and-neck, trailing behind the spectre of "no one" winning outright.
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"No one", aka "uncommitted delegates" is actually on my ballot. I may chose that one.

Otherwise, I'm not wild about the 3B's (Bernie, Biden, Bloomberg) so may vote for Warren. If she's still in a week from now. At least she's slightly younger.
 
Without any polling data for late in the day today as all the sudden news has come forth, I am prepared for results that diverge from models.

Will be one hell of a day.
 
I wonder if Biden offered Klobuchar the Veep if she would drop out now?

Note that not only did she drop out, she's now appearing with Biden at a campaign rally. Buttigieg too, but I think Klobuchar would be a good complement for Biden on the ticket. Buttigieg may be up for a cabinet position or something like that. In any case, he managed to raise his national profile, and since he's still young he can run again the next time there isn't a Democratic incumbent running for reelection.

Neither of them were likely to win anyway, so it was the perfect time to cash in their chips and get out




ETA: of course, this all hinges on whether he can now take advantage of their dropping out and their endorsements to win on Super Tuesday.
 
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Sadly for Mayor Pete, the winds of voter tastes have shifted from youthfully optimistic yet empty platitudes to angry gibberish from elderly East Coast dementia patients
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It rules that we're rallying around a guy that got caught lying about going to jail in South Africa three days ago
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In Joe's defense, it may have been an episode of senile dementia. Or just a lie. Take your pick.
 
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The unexpected early drop out of Pete and Klobuchar really seems to have thrown things into disarray. We'll probably get a better picture after the super tuesday returns.

I'm not really sure that I believe Warren when she says she's dedicated to running until the convention, regardless of whether she's winning or not. Candidates never admit that they are considering dropping out, because that completely saps their support.

Would Warren really run a dead-end, zombie campaign? Would voters respond to such a thing positively? If she can't gain any real traction, then this is going to become a Bernie vs Biden race, the progressive candidate vs the establishment candidate.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
The unexpected early drop out of Pete and Klobuchar really seems to have thrown things into disarray. We'll probably get a better picture after the super tuesday returns.

I'm not really sure that I believe Warren when she says she's dedicated to running until the convention, regardless of whether she's winning or not. Candidates never admit that they are considering dropping out, because that completely saps their support.

Would Warren really run a dead-end, zombie campaign? Would voters respond to such a thing positively? If she can't gain any real traction, then this is going to become a Bernie vs Biden race, the progressive candidate vs the establishment candidate.
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Yeah, Pete pretty much denied dropping out until 5 minutes before he did.
 
Cabbage said:
It's some of both, if you want to be honest about it. They are uniquely concerned about Sanders ability to beat Trump compared with the other Democratic candidates.

Which is entirely obvious, yet for some reason you feel a need to be pedantic about it. :rolleyes:
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You were doing so well with the first part, and then you had to get personal for some reason.

I'm not being pedantic. It's the way I understood your post initially, and then sought to correct it.
 
Dems Converge Around Dementia-Addled Warmonger Ahead Of Super Tuesday

Caitlin Johnstone said:
Back in January, well before the Democratic primary race had taken on its current composition, independent journalist Ruth Ann Oskolkoff reported that a source had heard from high-level Democratic Party insiders that they were planning to install Joe Biden as the party’s nominee, and to smear Bernie Sanders as a Russian asset.

“On January 20, 2020 at 8:20 p.m. PDT I received a communication from a reliable source,” Oskolkoff wrote. “This person had interactions earlier that evening with high level party members and associates of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) who said that they have now selected Biden as the Democratic Party nominee, with Warren as the VP. They also said the plan is to smear Bernie as a Russian asset.”

Now, immediately before Super Tuesday, we are seeing establishment candidates Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar drop out of the race, both of whom, along with former candidate Beto O’Rourke, are now suddenly endorsing Biden. Elizabeth Warren, the only top-level candidate besides Sanders who could be labeled vaguely “left” by any stretch of the imagination, has meanwhile outraged progressives by remaining in the race, to the Vermont senator’s detriment. [...]
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Darat said:
Well then it would seem the USA will have a choice between two demented people at their presidential election. Can't say fairer than that.
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Two old white dudes who've both lost a step, but only one of them believes in listening to experts.
 
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