Democratic caucuses and primaries

Belz... said:
Yeah but that's Ontario. What do you expect?
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Oh that's right... you're in quebec. Where none of the moose would be able to get on the roads thanks to the constant road repairs and construction.

(Ok, I think that's enough thread derail.)
 
Distracted1 said:
Keep in mind that these are primaries, Not Constitutionally mandated elections. They are not even necessary if a Party deems it prudent to select its' candidate through other means.
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In my state, the primary and how it is conducted are written in the statutes and enforced by the Secretary of State and various county authorities.

Dates, ballot registration, conduct of sworn officials, all of it.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
In my state, the primary and how it is conducted are written in the statutes and enforced by the Secretary of State and various county authorities.

Dates, ballot registration, conduct of sworn officials, all of it.
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I've always wondered about that.

What if you're a small, 3rd party (like the Green Party, or the Monster Raving Loony Party)... do you also have to run a primary in the state in order to be allowed to run in the general election? Or does the law only apply to the major parties?

And if you're a small political party, who pays for everything? Does the party have to scrape up the funds to pay for ballots, officials, etc. or does the state step in?
 
Segnosaur said:
I've always wondered about that.



What if you're a small, 3rd party (like the Green Party, or the Monster Raving Loony Party)... do you also have to run a primary in the state in order to be allowed to run in the general election? Or does the law only apply to the major parties?



And if you're a small political party, who pays for everything? Does the party have to scrape up the funds to pay for ballots, officials, etc. or does the state step in?
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Any entity registered as a political party has to operate open, publicly administered and regulated elections. Various fees that candidates, parties, and other classifications of political organizations have to pay fund some of that.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And as Bernie's confidence grows he's speaks more truth. He's not a Democrat.

CNN Bernie Sanders just declared war on the Democratic establishment in his Nevada victory speech.
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That article is about a tweet from yesterday and makes no reference to a speech today.
And Biden gets caught in a whopper.
A recurring Biden campaign story about being arrested in South Africa is full of inconsistencies

Sorry Joe, time to go.
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Maybe he just linked to the wrong story.

Plus, once Corn Pop turned out to be real, Joe gets way the benefit of the doubt about his rambling self-serving fantasy stories.
 
So the DNC hates Sanders, but they're letting people go to bed tonight with a "Bernie Wins, Full stop" story rather than a "Bernie Wins, Biden Rebounds", or "Bernie Wins, Warren Surges After Debate", or "Bernie Wins, Buttigieg Secures Another Second Place Finish" story. These results are perfect for maximizing the impact of his victory.
 
Beeyon said:
So the DNC hates Sanders, but they're letting people go to bed tonight with a "Bernie Wins, Full stop" story rather than a "Bernie Wins, Biden Rebounds", or
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The DNC is not a media outlet, 4% of the vote is in, and it is 6PM there.

Plus if this 45% result holds up, any other narrative is a bit too obvious. Getting beat worse than 2-1 isn't much of a rebound for Biden.
 
Suddenly said:
That article is about a tweet from yesterday and makes no reference to a speech today.

Maybe he just linked to the wrong story.

Plus, once Corn Pop turned out to be real, Joe gets way the benefit of the doubt about his rambling self-serving fantasy stories.
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Whether the article does or not, I just heard him say it.

I don't know the Corn Pop reference. Try reading the article.
 
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Beeyon said:
So the DNC hates Sanders, but they're letting people go to bed tonight with a "Bernie Wins, Full stop" story rather than a "Bernie Wins, Biden Rebounds", or "Bernie Wins, Warren Surges After Debate", or "Bernie Wins, Buttigieg Secures Another Second Place Finish" story. These results are perfect for maximizing the impact of his victory.
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What makes you think the Democratic Party proper is fully behind Biden?
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
It's frustrating because this is 100% a solved problem. I vote in Mass and I'll spend more time parking my car and walking to the city hall than I will waiting to vote.

There are plenty of states that can run a smooth election that is accessible to everyone who wants to vote. The problem is that some states choose to run their elections poorly.
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True. I've never stood in a line to vote. I fill out my ballot in the comfort of my own home, pop it in the mail, and I'm done.
 
CNN's Chris Matthews just can't help himself with the tasteless analogies.

"But I think it's a little late to stop him," Matthews told viewers.

Then the MSNBC star turned to the history books for an analogy to describe his feelings at watching a series of top Democrats be outpaced by Sanders.

"I was reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940," said Matthews, "And the general, Reynaud, calls up Churchill and says, 'It's over.' And Churchill says, 'How can that be? You've got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?' He said, 'It's over.'"

"So I had that suppressed feeling," said Matthews.
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Bernie Sanders Derangement Syndrome folks.
 
Suddenly said:
The DNC is not a media outlet, 4% of the vote is in, and it is 6PM there.

Plus if this 45% result holds up, any other narrative is a bit too obvious. Getting beat worse than 2-1 isn't much of a rebound for Biden.
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In 2016 half the results were in two hours after the caucuses started. "Media Outlets" are not the reason why so few results are out.

Skeptic Ginger said:
What makes you think the Democratic Party proper is fully behind Biden?
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I didn't mean to suggest they were, which is why I gave two other examples of candidates that would benefit from faster result aggregation. My point was only that the party's slow processing of the vote has benefitted Sanders, which undermines the idea that the DNC is in "anybody-but-Bernie" mode.
 
Beeyon said:
I didn't mean to suggest they were, which is why I gave two other examples of candidates that would benefit from faster result aggregation. My point was only that the party's slow processing of the vote has benefitted Sanders, which undermines the idea that the DNC is in "anybody-but-Bernie" mode.
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There is no believable scenario that the DNC could have slowed the process to help Sanders, so I don't see how you can see their intention in the slow results.
 
The question is whether or not the DNC could have sped things up to help someone else. If they could, but are not, it is indicative of them not being anti-Sanders. I think it is unlikely that there was no way to push results out faster.
 
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