Deeper than primes - Continuation

[doronshadmi]

I've never tried LSD either so haven't had a full on synesthesia experience.

For good reasons, they harm the fine link between simplicity and complexity.

Nor have I been a tree.

You do not have to in order to actually know your self.

Maybe some people can only approach the non-local via the local.

As long as one's awareness is restricted to the level of thoughts.

 

[doronshadmi]

I agree. I don't much believe in time beyond subjectivity.

We are not in agreement as long as your awareness is restricted to the level of thoughts, which is naturally subjective.

No TM required

Indeed no TM is required in order to be restricted to the level of thoughts, which is naturally subjective.

 

[realpaladin]

What lead you to the mystical schools you mention? or what lead you away from them?

To: curiosity and younger years.
Away: unsubstantiated claims and 'better than thou' attitude.

 

[keyfeatures]

Cause and effect are but the subjectively separated elements of connected reality. As such, observation is required only for the subjective bystander. C is the speed it takes to observe A to B. But A and B are already related and therefore instantaneous and infinite. The universe is as it is because no other way is possible. It is those who require time to observe who assume counterfactual reality may/can exist. Thinking that there is an external (or even internal) agent beyond / other than universal connected reality is clearly bonkers.

 

[realpaladin]

punshhh there is nothing mystical in TM or Organic Mathematics.

Except for the initiation ritual, the fact that you have to greet your mentor with 'Jai Guru ...' and not to forget the 'special mantra', which is based on your age. The list can be found on the Internet-

 

[realpaladin]

As can be observed by the cost of the courses...

And that they have been under scrutiny for keeping Indian slaves in Vlodrop.

 

[keyfeatures]

Indeed no TM is required in order to be restricted to the level of thoughts, which is naturally subjective.

You appear to be restricted. Don't allow that which you think liberates to actually be a prison. Movements (TM is a movement) are the mythical manmade subsets that can hinder growth. You have some interesting mathematical ideas. I wish you well with them.

TM demonstrates its limits with an attachment to nomenclature and hierarchical sensibilities.

 

[keyfeatures]

You do not have to in order to actually know your self.

There is no 'self'. If TM hasn't shown you this, I don't know what it's good for.

 

[doronshadmi]

universal connected reality

One of the possible names of Unity.

 

[doronshadmi]

You appear to be restricted.

One does not have to be restricted to TM movement in order to successfully practice TM.

Take me, for example.

 

[doronshadmi]

There is no 'self'.

There is, and it is non-personal.

If you want to shot (actually practice TM), shot, don't talk (don't just talk about it).

 

[doronshadmi]

Except for the initiation ritual, the fact that you have to greet your mentor with 'Jai Guru ...' and not to forget the 'special mantra', which is based on your age. The list can be found on the Internet-

These facts are irrelevant to the actual successful TM practicing.

 

[doronshadmi]

You have some interesting mathematical ideas. I wish you well with them.

Thank you, they are based on Unity awareness, which is not a property of any specific person or movement.

 

[doronshadmi]

As can be observed by the cost of the courses...

As for the cost of the courses... , they are too high, I agree with you.

In that case you can find the list of mantras in the internet and practice it by yourself.

But be aware of the fact that without the right orders how to practice it, there is high probability that you wrongly do it and will not get any actual benefit of it.

 

[realpaladin]

These facts are irrelevant to the actual successful TM practicing.

I was pointing out the woowoo parts... said nothing about practicing.

 

[doronshadmi]

I was pointing out the woowoo parts... said nothing about practicing.

Good so both of us know that the woowoo part is irrelevant.

Organic Mathematics is some step to avoid woowoo and deal with the actual practice that may be developed into Unity awareness, as very briefly written in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8091103&postcount=653 .

 

[realpaladin]

Good so both of us know that the woowoo part is irrelevant.

Organic Mathematics is some step to avoid woowoo and deal with the actual practice that may be developed into Unity awareness, as very briefly written in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8091103&postcount=653 .

Faaaantastic! Excellent! Hurrah!

 

[doronshadmi]

Faaaantastic! Excellent! Hurrah!

I prefer supercalifragilisticexpialidocious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-Z0SSyUcw

 

[realpaladin]

I prefer supercalifragilisticexpialidocious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b-Z0SSyUcw

Yes, I imagine you would...

 

[keyfeatures]

Good so both of us know that the woowoo part is irrelevant.

Organic Mathematics is some step to avoid woowoo and deal with the actual practice that may be developed into Unity awareness, as very briefly written in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8091103&postcount=653 .

These are all good, and quite exciting (sorry, I don't have attachment value to 'calmness') ideas - obviously written quite simplistically here for more straightforward access. My own thinking is that integer dependent maths is always going to be limited in that if we take the universe as the one bounded set, all counting is actually division but with lack of knowledge of the size of the remaining part. We cannot have accurate mathematics until we have accurate physics because definable meaning can only be attached to sensible objects. Integers that divide into an unknown remaining set are not truly sensible objects.