December Stundie nominations

Robrob said:
Illiterate and a loon. Nice combination...
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I think that's supposed to be a lame pun on his nick. :rolleyes:

ETA: Beaten to the punch by TSR. Also, as much as possible, I attempt to avoid recognizing (and thus legitimizing) CM's hijacking the name of an American icon, and I encourage everyone else to do the same.
 
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LSSBB said:
Yet another treasure trove of Stundie: Abel Danger
and yada yada yada in a CT stream of consciousness.
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I can't read that. Can someone summarize?

(Seriously, I can't. I just wind up skipping all over randomly. The phrasing, the spacing, everything, seems designed to make it impossible for me to read. Damned ADHD. Usually doesn't bother me, expect in wall-o-text posts.)
 
Further defense of his "In my professional opinion" medical comment.
Robert Prey said:
My professional BS detector says "baloney." Those who are cited as supposedly dying from the common cold undoubtedly have died from ensuing complications, or from hospital induced infections. And I do have a PhD in common sense. Self proclaimed and bestowed.
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Robert Prey said:
cwalner said:
Hate to burst your bubble there Robert, but if actually had the common sense that you think you do, you would have known better than to have claimed a professional opinion on a medical matter without being a doctor on a skeptics forum.
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Baloney. Anyone can have a professional Medical Opinion. M.D.s, non M.Ds, DMO,s Chiropractors, Nurses, researchers, scholars, citizens, librarians, even nitwits who call themselves "Deep Thinkers". If you need an MD to tell you to go take poison for a cure, then, that's your choice. I prefer to uses common sense.
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X said:
I can't read that. Can someone summarize?

(Seriously, I can't. I just wind up skipping all over randomly. The phrasing, the spacing, everything, seems designed to make it impossible for me to read. Damned ADHD. Usually doesn't bother me, expect in wall-o-text posts.)
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I wish I could help, X, but i was too stundified after "lesbian- friendly 9-1-1 crime scenes linked to the 1996 murder of JonBenet Ramsey". As far as for these two phrases, if they make sense at all to someone, anyone (human), let me know:

"Matrix 5 man-in-the-middle propaganda attack"
"Star Chamber pig-farm oaths"

ETA: That stream of gibberish is exactly how it reads at the source: http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/02/abel-danger-mischief-makers.html?m=1
 
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LSSBB said:
"Star Chamber pig-farm oaths"
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I can shed some light on this one. It relates to this other phrase:

fellow guests at the Pickton pig farm in British Columbia
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If you're not Canadian, you might not have heard about this.


Robert William "Willie" Pickton (born October 24, 1949)[2] of Port Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada is a former pig farmer[3] and serial killer convicted of the second-degree murders of six women
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Excavations continued through November 2003; the cost of the investigation is estimated to have been $70 million by the end of 2003, according to the provincial government.[9][dead link] Currently the property is fenced off, under lien by the Crown in Right of British Columbia.[citation needed] In the meantime, all the buildings have been demolished. Forensic analysis was very difficult because the bodies of the victims may have been left to decompose or allowed to be eaten by insects and pigs on the farm. During the early days of the excavations, forensic anthropologists brought in heavy equipment, including two 50-foot (15 m) flat conveyor belts and soil sifters to find traces of remains. On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been ground up and mixed with pork from the farm. This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to friends and visitors of the farm. Another claim made is that he fed the bodies directly to his pigs
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So he seems to be accusing these people of somehow being involved with this guy, and taking some sort of oath related to it all.
 
Horatius said:
So he seems to be accusing these people of somehow being involved with this guy, and taking some sort of oath related to it all.
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I figured it had something to do with Pickton, and they guy who pumps this word salad out is based in Vancouver (may the Blackhawks always defeat the Canucks).I just couldn't figure the Oath angle.
 
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LSSBB said:
I figured it had something to do with Pickton, and they guy who pumps this word salad out is based in Vancouver (may the Blackhawks always defeat the Canucks).I just couldn't figure the Oath angle.
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I think this is a fairly common type of claim amongst these sorts of people. They think that the people who are "in on it" have to take part in some Evil Ritual type things, so as to have motivation to keep quiet about the whole plot. You see the same thing in discussion of Bohemian Grove, and various alleged sex abuse rings. The idea is, if they ever spill the beans, incriminating evidence will arise, that will destroy them, and their credibility.
 
Horatius said:
I can shed some light on this one. It relates to this other phrase:




If you're not Canadian, you might not have heard about this.





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Excavations continued through November 2003; the cost of the investigation is estimated to have been $70 million by the end of 2003, according to the provincial government.[9][dead link] Currently the property is fenced off, under lien by the Crown in Right of British Columbia.[citation needed] In the meantime, all the buildings have been demolished. Forensic analysis was very difficult because the bodies of the victims may have been left to decompose or allowed to be eaten by insects and pigs on the farm. During the early days of the excavations, forensic anthropologists brought in heavy equipment, including two 50-foot (15 m) flat conveyor belts and soil sifters to find traces of remains. On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been ground up and mixed with pork from the farm. This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to friends and visitors of the farm. Another claim made is that he fed the bodies directly to his pigs
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So he seems to be accusing these people of somehow being involved with this guy, and taking some sort of oath related to it all.
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Holy "Farmer Vincent" Batman!
 
Someone is unclear on how the legal system operates.

Anders Lindman said:
Wilcock wrote in his blog post that the PDF file is from pacer.gov which is an official source for lawsuits, and I trust that he is telling the truth about that.
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Anders Lindman said:
That doesn't sound plausible. Surely it isn't possible to file a lawsuit with baseless accusations and get away with it? Then the legal system could be abused and cause harm to innocent people by false lawsuits claiming all kinds of things.
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Anders Lindman said:
At least the attorney must have taken the lawsuit seriously? :confused:
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Anders Lindman said:
It's a lawsuit filed by an attorney from a law firm, so there should be some substance to the claims I assume. Why else accept the case? If the case is baseless, then accepting it just because of getting a lot money would be a kind of conspiracy in itself.
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It gets better Robrob...

Anders Lindman said:
Look, the basic fact is very simple. Either one or more claims in the lawsuit are true or they are false. It's that simple!

And if the legal system isn't capable of finding out the truth of the matter it only shows that it isn't capable enough. I'm more interested in the truth than what the legal system THINKS is the truth, or HOW it struggles with trying to find the truth. As I have said before: Evidence doesn't change the truth.
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So, no discussion of the legal system, and no discussion of that irrelevant evidence that does not change "the truth". Doesn't leave much to talk about when wanting to discuss a court case?
 
A Non-Conspiracy Stundie Nomination?

Okay, this isn't a conspiracy theory thing...it comes from a debate in the Social Issues and Current Events forum about the Vietnam war, and American war crimes there. But the argument is so very much like that of conspiracy theory nuts that I'd like to submit it for consideration here...Travis, would you consider this acceptable?

First, the claim was made that only someone who was "brainwashed" would think that America committed human rights violations during the Vietnam War. In response, I cited official American records that confirmed more than 320 incidences of rape, torture, and murder by American military forces (and hundreds more that were alleged, but couldn't be proven).

The response...that's a mere 320 examples! It's nothing!

But here's the best part, and the one for which I'd like to make a Stundie nomination: in trying to justify their claim that 320 specific, verified cases of human rights abuses over 10 years is insigificant, OnlyTellsTruth makes the following argument:
OnlyTellsTruths said:
Again... sigh.

Let's say there were 300 incidents per day in the Vietname war that could have had a possible human rights violation occur. There are 3650 days in 10 years. 3650 time 300 is more than one million.

300 is a very small fraction of a percent of one million!

Again, you basically claim that everyone on the planet is a murderer because there are some murderers on the planet. Or that it is common practice to be a murderer because some people have done it.
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Essentially, the argument is, "I'll make up an entirely fictitious and massively overinflated number, and then demonstrate that by comparison to this entirely fictitious number, the actual number of abuses was almost non-existent...a fraction of a percent!"

Let's apply this to another case:

"Let's say there were 10 million people killed by Muslim terrorists on 9/11!. Only 2996 people actually died on that day, which is a fraction of one percent!"
 
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