December Stundie nominations

Posted without comment, the last two noms from ergo:


Edx said:
Sigh

  • Yes the reports are mistaken, they probably did not see melted steel. Neither on 911 nor in the endless examples I gave you when people said it about other fires.

  • Melted metals is expected in fires. Yes. Many metals will melt in fires.

  • If there was melted steel, there are certain conditions that could cause steel to melt in such a fire and it is conceivable that the WTC rubble pile could potentially have fulfilled such conditions in certain areas. As I said, a furnace (where you can melt steel) is just a well insulated fire.

  • You have neither shown that we have reason to think there was melted steel from super high temperatures, nor a theory as to how that would be possible with thermite to create the effects you say were observed.
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Edx said:
ergo said:
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"No melted girders" where? Did you even look at the link? No, you didn't.
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Yes I read it, you however only read one sentence.

Its written in the quote you posted, I even bolded it in RED for you.

He is explaining to the interviewer that the steel likely reached 1,000 to 1,500 degrees and this was sufficient to collapse them. He then says that the word "melting" should NOT be used for girders BECAUSE he says that "there was no melting of girders".

His interviewer then askes him... "But they got soft, though, didn't they?". He is asking... So they did not melt, but they got soft, right? Then Astaneh says yes, when steel reaches 1,000 degrees it looses its strength. So even the interviewer knows that he was saying that no steel melted. Whoever transcribed this interview did not write the last sentence correctly and forgot to include the word "no" ie. It should have read... "I saw [no] melting of girders in World Trade Center." If not, then the entire point makes NO SENSE AT ALL.

He cant be saying that there was no melting girders and that there was melting girders at the same time.

The whole quote, please actually read it this time.

ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH: Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center.

SPENCER MICHELS: But they got soft, though, didn't they?

ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH: Yes. When steel gets to 1,000 degrees, it loses its strength.
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What you're trying to use as evidence is an obvious and simple typo. We also know he doesnt agree with you. He cant be an expert one second and an idiot incompetent the next just because you want him to say things he never said.
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How Stundie-worthy these are is left as an exercise for the reader.
 
Everyone is much more manly on the internet...

Clayton Moore said:
Wroclaw said:
As a non-partisan organization, it's not the role of the ICRC to do such things. At most, it could have reported war crimes to a responsible authority and left it there. It feared if it did so it would then be barred by Germany from visiting other camps where war crimes were not being committed. Half a loaf, in this case, was better than none, particularly given their powerlessness.

If that sounds "Paterno-ish" to you, I suggest — yet again — that you've never had a gun to your head.
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Back when I traversed the Silver Strand if a teenage or old man guard did indeed put a gun to my head it's likely he would have ate it.
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Yet another treasure trove of Stundie: Abel Danger
Kristine Marcy (nee McConnell) [Revised December 5, 2011: Kristine Marcy is a Matrix 5 principal and the 1979 de facto founder president and alleged extortionist of man-in-the-middle members of the Senior Executive Service (‘SES’) and the Bar Associations of the District of Columbia, U.S. Court of Military Appeals, and the U.S. Supreme Court; she and her DOJ Pride associates allegedly bought Clipper 9-1-1 monitoring devices to track the movement of Fast and Furious weapons to selected murder-for-hire teams in Mexico and Arizona; she allegedly procured Clipper chips to help DOJ Pride insiders coordinate the spoliation of evidence at lesbian- friendly 9-1-1 crime scenes linked to the 1996 murder of JonBenet Ramsey; she allegedly used the Court of Appeals to enforce Star Chamber oaths of allegiance allegedly sworn by the late General Alexander Haig – and fellow guests at the Pickton pig farm in British Columbia – whose silent support was needed for a Matrix 5 man-in-the-middle propaganda attack on 9/11; she allegedly linked the United States Small Business Administration HUBZone Settlements to an E-Comm command center in British Columbia so that 9-1-1 operators could learn how to track, trap and extort victims through staged murder scenes e.g. at a horror film production where victims thought they were actors or extras; she allegedly ordered Robert Hanssen and her Femme Comp associates to administer Star Chamber pig-farm oaths to entrap foreign and domestic officials in the United States; she allegedly used a ceremonial blindfold of the type associated with oath taking by Penn State’s pedophile Greek Life community to warn Tom Ridge against linking the United Flight 93 crime scene to the attacks of 9/11; she allegedly formed a joint venture between Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates and the U.S. Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System (‘Con Air’) to use Sabre seat reservation technology to monitor the movements of pig farm oath takers; she allegedly used SBA 8(a) protégé companies to modify an EC135C Speckled Trout aircraft carrying General Henry Shelton to support the attempted overthrow of the United States government on 9/11; she allegedly set up a revolving fund (# 15X4275) with bona vacantia – ownerless goods – in a joint venture with Star Chamber insiders, the Treasury Solicitor, Permira (Schroder Salomon Smith Barney in WTC#7) and organized crime groups to finance modifications of aircraft for the 9/11 attacks; she allegedly used Clipper PKI to manipulate content of NDS and News Corp pay-per-view television through 9/11; she allegedly procured ‘Con Air’ Lear Jet aircraft for use by Bombardier's homicidal EW pilot, Russell Williams to support the SES Speckled Trout chain of command and the decoy-and-drone maneuvers of 911; she allegedly used USIS file s and Canadian Privy Council insider and NAPA vice president Lena Trudeau to create virtual ‘al-Qaeda’ operatives; she auctioned off SBA 8(a) CDOs just before the 9/11 attacks and assigned patented-device incendiary liquidation rights to D2 Banking and KPMG clients at Canary Wharf; she allegedly used images of pig farm oath ceremonies to extort 9/11 cooperation from the likes of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Frank Carlucci, Lynn McNulty, Dr. David Finkleman, Gen. Ralph E. Eberhart, Rear Admiral Gordon Piche, Robert Mueller, Bruce McConnell and Generals Haig, Shelton and Shalikashvili; she is the de facto President and Chief Executive Officer of Washington D.C.-based NAPA (The National Academy of Public Administration); she allegedly infiltrated pig farm Greek Life oath takers into George Washington University, University of Chicago and Northwestern University and University of Hawaii (BA French) and Georgetown University ( MFS, master foreign service); she allegedly adopted Rippergate oath ceremonies developed by Jane Addams at Hull House; she allegedly organized the theft of PROMIS from owners and translation into French for La Sûreté du Québec ...
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and yada yada yada in a CT stream of consciousness.
 
LSSBB said:
Yet another treasure trove of Stundie: Abel Danger
and yada yada yada in a CT stream of consciousness.
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Couldn't help myself:

Speckled Trout
The C-135C Speckled Trout at Edwards Air Force Base

Speckled Trout is the official name of a combined SAF/CSAF support mission and concurrent test mission. It was also the official nickname given to a modified C-135C, AF Ser. No. 61-2669, that was used by the Secretary and the Chief of Staff of the Air Force for executive transport requirements. Fully equipped with an array of communications equipment, data links and cryptographic sets, the aircraft served a secondary role as a testbed for proposed command and control systems and was also used to evaluate future transport aircraft design. The 412th Flight Test Squadron (412 FLTS) of the Air Force Material Command (AFMC) at Edwards AFB, California operated the C-135 Speckled Trout airframe and managed its test mission.

The name Speckled Trout applies to both the organization and the aircraft. The name was chosen in honor of an early program monitor, Faye Trout, who assisted in numerous phases of the project. The word "speckled" was added because Trout apparently had "a lot of freckles."


I thing this is a red herring.:duck:
 
LSSBB said:
Yet another treasure trove of Stundie: Abel Danger
and yada yada yada in a CT stream of consciousness.
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I find this behavior interesting. In my law enforcement job, I occasionally have to answer the duty phone. This is where all the random tipsters and nut job calls get forwarded.

I've noticed there is a sub-category of nut job (see the above), who start out in a semi-coherent fashion then slowly without missing a beat, ratchet it up to full stream of consciousness speed. I doubt I could could recite preprinted words and phrases, much less free-form associate a whole cloth random narrative as fast as they do.
 
CM posts some crap over in the vaccine / autism thread, and then roughly 15 minutes later states

Clayton Moore said:
Looks like I kicked tail and I did it all a Lone.
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Surely this is some sort of record for premature victory dance...
 
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Edited for civility.
 
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To be fair, I think zie was trying for a pun on the Lone Ranger thing. Which is itself funny, since zie neither wrote nor published any of his references, nor found those references without being spoon fed them by others...
 
What's unbelievable about eating your own feces for a year?

Again, Robrob, with his stunning display of gullability wonders why a story that involves a girl hiding diamonds from the Nazis by swallowing them, digging them out of her feces, and swallowing them again over and over for at least year has credibility issues.

Originally Posted by Dogzilla
Does she also say she swallowed and defecated diamonds repeatedly? If yes, then her credibility takes a hit. Does she also say she was among a line of Jews slowly shuffling toward a flaming pit and then falling in? If yes, then her credibility takes a hit. Does she also say she was one of the Lebensborn children who was operated on by Dr. Mengele at Dachau? If yes, then her credibility takes a hit. Is the only reference to this person found in the diary where she is quoted telling about her holocaust experiences? If yes, then her credibility takes a hit.

Out of curiosity, why would you consider the above situations to be "hits on credibility?
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RE: What's unbelievable about eating your own feces for a year?

It takes a special kind of person to confuse "diamonds" for "feces"...

Dogzilla said:
Again, Robrob, with his stunning display of gullability wonders why a story that involves a girl hiding diamonds from the Nazis by swallowing them, digging them out of her feces, and swallowing them again over and over for at least year has credibility issues.
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Maybe Paul Simon wrote it down wrong and she didn't hafve Diamonds on the soles of her shoes after all.
 
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