December Stundie Nominations

[TJM]

Regular truthers woke up then fell back to sleep. No planers have stayed alert.

No comment...

I'll comment.

Without adequate rest, the brain's ability to function quickly deteriorates. The brain works harder to counteract sleep deprivation effects, but operates less effectively: concentration levels drop, and memory becomes impaired. Similarly, the brain's ability to problem solve is greatly impaired. Decision-making abilities are compromised, and the brain falls into rigid thought patterns that make it difficult to generate new problem-solving ideas. Insufficient rest can also cause people to have hallucinations.

Could it be that all this time the no planers just need a nap?

 

[McHrozni]

Does a stundie count if it wasn't posted this month? Probably not, but I'll still post this one, since it really deserves the prize (see description of the video to the right):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LdQ6DGhpo

A few snippets:

DEWs did NOT bring down the towers, they did not vaporize anything, all in all they were a MINOR agent in the destruction, but they were used.

Thermate / Thermite, high explosives, possibly 4th gen micro-nukes brought the WTC towers down. BUT there is evidence of DEW which has a relatively minor effect during the destruction.

McHrozni

 

[Dave Rogers]

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/post6769.html#p6769

It's a little difficult to know exactly which bit of the above to single out as a Stundie. To a physicist, the initial paragraph is quite laughable:

Hm, funny mass C of 1 kg and velocity 10 m/s collides with stationary funny mass A also of 1 kg and applies its energy 50 J to A. After collision (C is glued to A and accelerates A) both A and C has same velocity 7.07 m/s and move as one mass of 2 kg glued together with energy 50 J.

But that's a little impenetrable to the layman, who, unlike the maritime safety engineer, may be perfectly competent in his profession without having learned in junior high school that momentum, not energy, is conserved in an inelastic collision. So perhaps we could go for the extraordinary Mr. Bjorkman's explanation of where the additional momentum comes from:

It is simple physics. And the glue! It slows things down but adds momentum.

Although he's no longer among us, Anders Bjorkman has lost none of his outstanding talent for missing the point.

Dave

 

[Horatius]

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/post6769.html#p6769

It's a little difficult to know exactly which bit of the above to single out as a Stundie. To a physicist, the initial paragraph is quite laughable:



But that's a little impenetrable to the layman, who, unlike the maritime safety engineer, may be perfectly competent in his profession without having learned in junior high school that momentum, not energy, is conserved in an inelastic collision. So perhaps we could go for the extraordinary Mr. Bjorkman's explanation of where the additional momentum comes from:


Although he's no longer among us, Anders Bjorkman has lost none of his outstanding talent for missing the point.

Dave

Wow. I think Heiwa has found his kindred spirits there. "Newton":

well, what i'm trying to get at, is.... momentum is mass in motion in one direction. after a collision, assuming equal masses for simplicity, half the momentum is transfered to the object hit, and half is retained in the hitter, but now in the opposite direction.
conservation of momentum doesn't factor in direction of force.
so, when debunkers say that the kinetic energy has leftover power, they are ignoring the vector.
kinetic energy does have a direction.

So, momentum isn't a vector, but kinetic energy is....Ooooookaaaayyy....

Linear momentum is a vector quantity, since it has a direction as well as a magnitude.

Oh, and:

 

[Dave Rogers]

So, momentum isn't a vector, but kinetic energy is....Ooooookaaaayyy....

There's a post on page 3 that makes perfect sense, though.

Dave

 

[Horatius]

There's a post on page 3 that makes perfect sense, though.

Dave

I'm guessing you meant:

p.s. i haven't done a calculation in thirty years, lol.

For a fellow who chose the name "Newton", he has some, shall we say, interesting ideas on how physics works....


Or you might have been referring to this nutcase

 

[Alareth]

Does a stundie count if it wasn't posted this month? Probably not, but I'll still post this one, since it really deserves the prize

Ok people, for the last time (at least until it is asked again next month) a Stundie nominee does not have to be from the month of the nominations. You can nominate anything that has never been nominated before.

The Stundies are about flawed thought processes, not current events.

 

[Travis]

Ok people, for the last time (at least until it is asked again next month) a Stundie nominee does not have to be from the month of the nominations. You can nominate anything that has never been nominated before.

The Stundies are about flawed thought processes, not current events.

This is correct. At least so long as I'm the dictator.




A poster named Newton who can't do physics??????

 

[Dr Adequate]

So heading to an underground mine will save us when the Sun gets sucked into a black hole? Good plan!!!

Well, it's easy to mock, but do you have a better plan?

 

[CptColumbo]

Well, it's easy to mock, but do you have a better plan?

I do, but it's a secret.

 

[JamesB]

Well, it's easy to mock, but do you have a better plan?

Well yes, and all I can say is it involves some duct tape, a bottle of Jack Daniels, and a can of whip cream...

 

[CptColumbo]

Well yes, and all I can say is it involves some duct tape, a bottle of Jack Daniels, and a can of whip cream...

Mine is more fun and has a milk bottle and salad tongs.

 

[Travis]

My plan involves letting the cute lifeguard that just moved in down the street know that it is, like, "the end of the world."

 

[tsig]

My plan involves letting the cute lifeguard that just moved in down the street know that it is, like, "the end of the world."

If you time it right maybe the Earth will move.

 

[TjW]

Well, it's easy to mock, but do you have a better plan?

A dinner reservation at Milliway's.

 

[BazBear]

Yeah, or maybe the southern hemisphere has actually broken off and sailed out into space to start its own independent planet. Why haven't we been informed of this? What else are They keeping from us?

Damn, I like Qantas, and Boeing 747-400ERs, but who needs a space shuttle with airliners than can get you from LA to Sydney between separated half planets? Must be the ISS is a towed decoy behind one of these jumbo spaceplanes just to make it all...look....good? Okay it's no crazier than the nomination.

ETA I mean the craziness of what was nominated...of course.....but after the "Is JREF a gay organization" thread, I thought I'd clarify just in case

 

[BazBear]

The war between the Lucy faction and the Linus Corps is particulary bad.

Are they a nuclear state? If so, who has the "football"!?

 

[triforcharity]

Here is a nice little gem from Ian over at the TruTV forums.

But let's go further. The majority of the jet fuel was burned off in the fireballs created by the impact of the planes. This left a far lesser amount of jet fuel to actually burn within the buildings. In this regard, there were not a great deal of flammable materials within the buildings to feed the fires: most things are made of metal (which doesn't burn) and plastic (which melts - but even when it does burn, the temperatures are relatively low).

WHAT????????????????????????

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=5764&page=9

 

[Travis]

Here is a nice little gem from Ian over at the TruTV forums.



WHAT????????????????????????

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=5764&page=9

Maybe we should blow his mind by telling him a key ingredient in plastics are hydrocarbons.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Here is a nice little gem from Ian over at the TruTV forums.



WHAT????????????????????????

http://boards.trutv.com/showthread.php?t=5764&page=9

from the same post:

Instead, let me offer some FACTS.

At its hottest (which would be in close to vacuum-like circumstances), jet diesel fuel burns at ~1,800 degrees. The melting point of standard structural steel is ~2,500 degrees. Thus even if we allow for the hottest possible temperature of the burning jet fuel (which was NOT in vacuum-like circumstances), there is no way - within the laws of physics in this universe - that the fires could have melted the steel. Period.

hydrocarbons burn hotter without oxygen, who knew, i guess the oxygen tank on my buddy's acetylene torch is to keep it from burning too hot

oh yeah, also jets apparently run on diesel now