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Dean Clifford Discussion Thread

Yeah something like that, I guess he won't say, Hey this nonsense don't work help!!!
 
Horatius said:
"They're so afraid of me, they can't risk letting me walk free!"
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You are correct, Sir!

"So Dean decided to address this. Basically he has made it pretty clear in the past, when they do try one of these hard take downs on the law movement, we can expect at least one of us to go to jail for a little while because they are going to try and make examples of people. They are going to try and do whatever they can and Dean was the big target to take down so he kind of expected this and to be going away for a little while anyway and wasn’t a big deal for him."

If by "big target" he means, "one stupid enough to violate parole and post his whereabouts on the internet", then yes, Dean is a big target.

In any event, I suspect that Dean will remain in custody after Friday's hearing, and that he and his brother will spin a story of valiant resistance against a corrupt and lawless system by the "heroic" Dean....
 
Border Reiver said:
You are correct, Sir!

"So Dean decided to address this. Basically he has made it pretty clear in the past, when they do try one of these hard take downs on the law movement, we can expect at least one of us to go to jail for a little while because they are going to try and make examples of people. They are going to try and do whatever they can and Dean was the big target to take down so he kind of expected this and to be going away for a little while anyway and wasn’t a big deal for him."

If by "big target" he means, "one stupid enough to violate parole and post his whereabouts on the internet", then yes, Dean is a big target.

In any event, I suspect that Dean will remain in custody after Friday's hearing, and that he and his brother will spin a story of valiant resistance against a corrupt and lawless system by the "heroic" Dean....
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He's a big target because he painted a bulls-eye on his back.
 
Border Reiver said:
You are correct, Sir!
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He also tosses in the jail house equivalent of "The Lurkers Support Me In E-mail!"


So much support from many all around the world. Many new people whom he has never heard from before that have only known about this stuff for 2 weeks and watched the videos recently and sending him letters in Jail now. He has boxes full of mail he has received now that are in full support of this.
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One letter Dean was sent, apparently there are a lot of successes with this stuff but they are just not sharing any of the information with everybody else because they have some sort of secret process.
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"We're having lots of successes! They're all just secret!"
 
The Dean crew has added to the March 2 update:

http://deanclifford.info/2014/03/02/update-number-five/

Besides all the whining and big talk, here's the line I find so entertaining,"There has been all sorts of positive news as well which Dean didn’t have time to get into right now."

A guy in jail for months with limited access to materials and the outside world somehow doesn't have time to let his followers in on the good news?

This is beginning to sound like one of Menard's pending "big announcements"!
 
arayder said:
A guy in jail for months with limited access to materials and the outside world somehow doesn't have time to let his followers in on the good news?

This is beginning to sound like one of Menard's pending "big announcements"!
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He's embraced the philosophy behind this great old joke:


How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

I'll tell you tomorrow!
 
arayder said:
The Dean crew has added to the March 2 update:

http://deanclifford.info/2014/03/02/update-number-five/

Besides all the whining and big talk, here's the line I find so entertaining,"There has been all sorts of positive news as well which Dean didn’t have time to get into right now."

A guy in jail for months with limited access to materials and the outside world somehow doesn't have time to let his followers in on the good news?

This is beginning to sound like one of Menard's pending "big announcements"!
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From the link:

The process Dean is executing is something the average every day person can do unassisted and without a whole group of people barraging the courts with filings or depending on many people to do all the leg work for them. Dean of course has had assistance with specific filings with the aid of a few people, which in turn has actually been simpler to manage and organize.

Because Dean has been unable to get much certified by a notary or commissioner of oath due to being completely denied access to one, he has had difficulty having his filings or motions, etc, heard in court.

Why yes every day people manage to get themselves arrested without help of anyone else.

Unfortunately getting unarrested seems to be a little more complicated.

If only he could get to a notary, the dreaded PTB seem to have found a vulnerable point.:D
 
I thought the point of Dean's Youtubes and seminars was to enable others to use his methods to escape the certainty of Canadian law.

The true and embarrassing outcome of Dean's use of his own methods is that he, minus his trucks, firearms and weed, is jailed, charged with serious crimes and likely to spend a good deal of time in the big house.

Now Dean is attempting to foist on the gullible the excuse that his methods aren't working for him because he has been targeted by the powers that be as a big fish in the freeman movement. Dean says when he gets out he's going to make effective methods available to the average freeman.

But that's exactly what he's been promising for some time now! I suspect Dean's been playing others for fools for quite some years now.

Now Dean's day of reckoning is close at hand.

The only question I have is how long it will take for Dean's suplicants to catch on to the fact that they are being played by a manipulative manchild who has reached the end of his rope.
 
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arayder said:
I thought the point of Dean's Youtubes and seminars was to enable others to use his methods to escape the certainty of Canadian law.

The true and embarrassing outcome of Dean's use of his own methods is that he, minus his trucks, firearms and weed, is jailed, charged with serious crimes and likely to spend a good deal of time in the big house.

Now Dean is attempting to foist on the gullible the excuse that his methods aren't working for him because he has been targeted by the powers that be as a big fish in the freeman movement. Dean says when he gets out he's going to make effective methods available to the average freeman.

But that's exactly what he's been promising for some time now! I suspect Dean's been playing others for fools for quite some years now.

Now Dean's day of reckoning is close at hand.

The only question I have is how long it will take for Dean's suplicants to catch on to the fact that they are being played by a manipulative manchild who has reached the end of his rope.
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Then he fashioned a noose out of it put his own head in it and jumped off the cliff.
 
tsig said:
Then he fashioned a noose out of it put his own head in it and jumped off the cliff.
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...while shouting "I've got them just where I want them!" and shooting himself in the foot.
 
Today's the day. Dean's hearing is coming up, and won't he be able to just let the judge have it.
 
Dean Clifford caught lying to his followers!

Dean Clifford is caught lying to his followers!

If you recall upon his November arrest Dean Clifford publicly protested that his arrest was based on a false charge. In a December 4, 2013 update from his website (http://deanclifford.info/2013/12/04/dean-plays-tennis-with-court/) Clifford said he not only did not miss the August 2013 bail hearing that led to arrest, but additionally claimed that no bail hearing was ever scheduled. Clifford claimed the powers that be trumped up the charges!

But in a September 11, 2013 Vinny Eastwood web radio interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJJc4_QJMpM) starting at 1:13:30 Dean admits that he simply didn't bother to attend the very same hearing he's been telling his followers was never scheduled in the first place!

The question Dean's followers have to ask is what else Dean has lied to them about!
 
arayder said:
Dean Clifford is caught lying to his followers!

If you recall upon his November arrest Dean Clifford publicly protested that his arrest was based on a false charge. In a December 4, 2013 update from his website (http://deanclifford.info/2013/12/04/dean-plays-tennis-with-court/) Clifford said he not only did not miss the August 2013 bail hearing that led to arrest, but additionally claimed that no bail hearing was ever scheduled. Clifford claimed the powers that be trumped up the charges!

But in a September 11, 2013 Vinny Eastwood web radio interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJJc4_QJMpM) starting at 1:13:30 Dean admits that he simply didn't bother to attend the very same hearing he's been telling his followers was never scheduled in the first place!

The question Dean's followers have to ask is what else Dean has lied to them about!
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marplots said:
It might be easier to just figure out what he didn't lie about.
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Apparently Dean's attempt at deception hasn't been detected just by me.

Here's a Youtube that's been developed documenting the audio of Dean's lie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4YmQ2wc2ZA

Youtube viewers are on to it now.
 
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phiwum said:
I guess it was also discovered by Jeffrey (using info from Bill Lumbergh and putting two and two together) in that Quatloos thread you participated in. So, you're right! It wasn't detected just by you!
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Yes, they did a good job. The administration here has a rule, I believe, about linking to other forums, so I didn't post the link directly to Quatloos.

Bill diligently listened all the way through a couple of Clifford Youtube "lessons" and web radio shows. Jeffery put two and two together.

I suspect that if one sat through more of Dean's materials one would find even more conflicting Clifford stories. He really likes to run his mouth on web radio shows so as to make it sound as if he's bulletproof.

In this case Dean, wanting to be cock of the freeman web radio walk, explained how he simply did not bother to show up at the August bail hearing.

But when he got put in jail for doing so he tried to make it sound like the bail hearing was never scheduled and that he'd been set up by the powers that be.
 
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jaydeehess said:
So how did the Mar 7 hearing go?
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Dean have been arrested numerous times the last years. He has been in jail for over 100 days now. One have to have a very strange concept of working to believe Deans spiel now.
 
jaydeehess said:
So how did the Mar 7 hearing go?
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hgus said:
Dean have been arrested numerous times the last years. He has been in jail for over 100 days now. One have to have a very strange concept of working to believe Deans spiel now.
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It seems records are not available on the web so the researchers here and over on Qualtoos can't readily find the outcome of the hearing. My understanding is that someone could go down to the court house access the records.

That said, Team Dean's silence tells us there were no results they could try to spin into a win.

My limited understanding of the proceedings so far is that many, if not most, of the hearings so far have been what the Canadian courts call case management hearings in which the court tries to assure that the government and the accused have their ducks in a row before the real show.

One has to figure that Dean's gibberish has only delayed that process, adding to the very pre-trial jail time he so vehemently complains about!

Others should feel free to correct me on any of this.
 
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