DEA HQ Security Camera Footage

Oh, this is the same old ground as has always been trod. Let's just remember that the evidence for Flight 77 impacting the Pentagon converges from so many sources that it's overwhelming and leave it at that. I'm not certain I'm ready to refresh my memory on the minituae of certain airphone calls, radar data, witness statements, and the like just because someone's whining about the lack of obvious video.

There was obvoius enough video for the Twin Towers impact, but that's not good enough for some of these guys. So what's the point of going any further? For the Pentagon: Radar, CVR, FDR, pieces, remains, witnesses, case closed. Complaints about video or hyperventilation over which witness put whatever aerial body north, south, east, or west of some gas station doesn't come close to overcoming all that.
 
Pardalis said:
Well since the DNA of the passengers of Flight 77 was found in the Pentagon, and no other plane struck the building that day, then the logical conclusion is that what we see in the video I linked to is Flight 77.

See how that logic thing works? You should have a try sometime.
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Well Red? Is this a sound reasoning?

Please tell me where I go wrong.
 
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RedIbis said:
Strawman argument. I didn't say a damn thing about faking anything. Does the security cam footage show Flight 77 or not?
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The fact that there is no video of flight 77 impacting the pentagon is not proof of flight 77 not impacting the pentagon
Seriously Red this is pretty basic stuff here.
 
T.A.M. said:
It was not really an argument, but you have to admit Red, there are truthers who come here arguing that the DNA and the plane parts were faked/planted. To those who contend this, my argument is...so why not fake a plane image hitting the pentagon, and have it leaked out to the public to quash any ideas concerning their sekrit.

So let me ask you, point blank (god I hope you have the guts to answer), do you think the DNA evidence and plane parts were faked or planted?

Because if so, then I pose the question to you, why would they fake those things, and not fake the image of a plane hitting the pentagon?

TAM:)
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Although your question is sincere, you're just derailing the point. The clip in the OP is just one more in the list of Pentagon clips that do not show Flight 77 striking the Pentagon.

But to answer your question, I don't know if it was or wasn't.

Trust me, I'm not going to get caught up in another long discussion about Flight 77 evidence. I will however, keep an eye out for any video that shows a commercial airliner striking the Pentagon. Let me know if you find one.
 
Pardalis said:
Well since the DNA of the passengers of Flight 77 was found in the Pentagon, and no other plane struck the building that day, then the logical conclusion is that what we see in the video I linked to is Flight 77.
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Well Red? Is this a sound reasoning?

Please tell me where I go wrong.
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Don't leave me hangin', Red.
 
RedIbis said:
Although your question is sincere, you're just derailing the point. The clip in the OP is just one more in the list of Pentagon clips that do not show Flight 77 striking the Pentagon.

But to answer your question, I don't know if it was or wasn't.

Trust me, I'm not going to get caught up in another long discussion about Flight 77 evidence. I will however, keep an eye out for any video that shows a commercial airliner striking the Pentagon. Let me know if you find one.
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well I guess an "I don't know" is a little better then evasion.

You do at least see the problem with those who claim fakery for the existing evidence, but then cry foul when no tape proving the official account shows up, right?

TAM:)
 
RedIbis said:
Trust me, I'm not going to get caught up in another long discussion about Flight 77 evidence. I will however, keep an eye out for any video that shows a commercial airliner striking the Pentagon. Let me know if you find one.
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Already done, two cameras in fact. The Pentagon gate camera footage released many years ago. Not sure how you missed that one, but I'm glad I could be of service.
 
911files said:
Already done, two cameras in fact. The Pentagon gate camera footage released many years ago. Not sure how you missed that one, but I'm glad I could be of service.
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You can see Flight 77 in those frames?
 
Well since the DNA of the passengers of Flight 77 was found in the Pentagon, and no other plane struck the building that day, then the logical conclusion is that what we see in the video I linked to is Flight 77.
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Red, tell me what is wrong with this line of reasoning.
 
RedIbis said:
You're assuming that reports of the passenger DNA prove that what struck the Pentagon was Flight 77.
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Yes... and?

There was no other plane that struck the building, so obviously it must be flight 77.

Is that logical?
 
Pardalis said:
Yes... and?

There was no other plane that struck the building, so obviously it must be flight 77.

Is that logical?
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No, if you're saying "must" as in not other possiblity exists, then you are entirely wrong. I don't mean this in a personal way, it's just cold logic.
 
RedIbis said:
No, if you're saying "must" as in no other possiblity exists, then you are entirely wrong. I don't mean this in a personal way, it's just cold logic.
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What if there's nothing consistent with the alternatives you have in mind?
 
RedIbis said:
I know how much you'd like to go there
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Well, it's at the heart of what makes you doubt that Flight 77 hit the building, so yes, I would very much like to "go there".

Man, making you say what you actually think is like pulling teeth. Why the secrecy? This is a discussion forum, say what is on your mind.

ETA: I don't mean no disrespect, but are you a girl? You remind me of an old girlfirend.
 
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RedIbis said:
Although your question is sincere, you're just derailing the point. The clip in the OP is just one more in the list of Pentagon clips that do not show Flight 77 striking the Pentagon.

But to answer your question, I don't know if it was or wasn't.

Trust me, I'm not going to get caught up in another long discussion about Flight 77 evidence. I will however, keep an eye out for any video that shows a commercial airliner striking the Pentagon. Let me know if you find one.
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Yeah...because a video is the ONLY way to prove something happened. Right Red? Ahhhhh...the youtube generation, so logical.

Hey Red, I drove to work today...but since there isn't a video of it, it must not have happened. Right?

Silly.
 
RedIbis said:
You're assuming that reports of the passenger DNA prove that what struck the Pentagon was Flight 77.
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In conjunction with everything else we know about flt77, the passengers and the crash site and in the absence of any competing theory that is consistent with all of that, yes.
 
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