From his frame of reference, it is.Because I have no idea how to pass that sentence.Wholly dependent on the speed at which the paper is whipped out from under it. Slowly enough, and it will stay in place on the paper and be dragged with it (backwards wrt the ground), fast enough, the paper is whipped out from under it (forwards wrt the paper).
I found a graphic for you Humber, if you are really interested in educating yourself. I know you like graphics.
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That's exactly what frame of reference dictates.It looks like it is.
That's exactly what frame of reference dictates.
That does not help in the least. Your own diagram shows that a tailwind will produce a turbine torque. The video says it does, and that the prop is all but useless. 3W. I keep telling you 3W at 15rpm. That will not go away.
It's about as bad a design as is possible. Selected for "efficiency" by plugging in numbers into an internet calculator. Caveat Emptor.
The prop needs an engine to drive it the other way. The diagram assumes that you understand that. That is rather the difference between a wind turbine generator, and a plane's propeller and engine.
Carteers always forget the engine. Lucky for you that Boeing use math.
Having "used up" the wind, you will need to find something ( the equivalent of the motor) to drive the rotor the other way, and oppose that turbine force. And you can say "ground power" and I will add that to the brake-drive hall of fame. Gearing too
That does not help in the least. Your own diagram shows that a tailwind will produce a turbine torque. The video says it does, and that the prop is all but useless. 3W. I keep telling you 3W at 15rpm. That will not go away.
The prop needs an engine to drive it the other way. The diagram assumes that you understand that. That is rather the difference between a wind turbine generator, and a plane's propeller and engine.
Carteers always forget the engine. Lucky for you that Boeing use math.
Having "used up" the wind, you will need to find something ( the equivalent of the motor) to drive the rotor the other way, and oppose that turbine force. And you can say "ground power" and I will add that to the brake-drive hall of fame. Gearing too
Not in relationship the to boy sitting in it. Otherwise he'd fall off the seat or be rammed through a front/rear window.There is little more to it than that. And it's the car that is moving, not the road.
Only because you can't seem to grasp it.The talk of absolute motion v relative motion is snake oil.
I have no idea what a GT is - unless you're talking about a Ford....Got a GT for that?
But the road and the bottom of the tread do move backwards from the frame of reference of the tank. Just like the road and the bottom of the wheel from the frame of reference of the car. It's not hard to argue that. It's just hard (impossible) for humber to understand.There is little more to it than that. And it's the car that is moving, not the road.
The talk of absolute motion v relative motion is snake oil.
Visual impression is just that. Patterns could be painted on the road that would lend the impression that the road was moving fasterforwards than the car.
And it's hard to argue that the road moves under parts of tank tread. The part in contact with the ground, does not move relative to the ground. The tank moves over it. Got a GT for that?
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Make up your mind. Is it exactly like an upwind cart, or does it have a different gearing?The cart is exactly like an uwpwind turbine.
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It moves one way or the other dependent upon the gearing,
I have no idea what a GT is - unless you're talking about a Ford.
By a GT he certainly means a Galilean Transformation.
Ah, he seems to be confused, since,By a GT he certainly means a Galilean Transformation.
The talk of absolute motion v relative motion is snake oil.
As I told you already you are wrong. Ask Yev.
The wheels turn the prop. I showed you the difference between a prop and a turbine.
The cart does not "use up" the wind. You are embarrassing yourself again.
As I told you already you are wrong. Ask Yev.
Engines drive props. No engine.The wheels turn the prop. I showed you the difference between a prop and a turbine.
That was for your benefit. You know, "backwards" roads and so forth.The cart does not "use up" the wind. You are embarrassing yourself again.
I am waiting for you to tell me that the cotton reel on the paper is not a GT of a cotton reel in the wind at almost WS. Why not?
It seems to want to stay in place, rather than be dragged back.
But the road and the bottom of the tread do move backwards from the frame of reference of the tank. Just like the road and the bottom of the wheel from the frame of reference of the car. It's not hard to argue that. It's just hard (impossible) for humber to understand.
A GT?
When the paper is rapidly jerked away, the cotton reel's inertia will dominate over its rolling resistance trying to make it go with the paper. Consequently most of the work done by the frictional force on the reel's rim spins the reel around its centre of gravity and only a tiny proportion accelerates the reel in the same direction as the paper.
Happy with that?
Why you consider this to be (as I surmise) a useful model of a cotton reel blown along by the wind, I cannot fathom.
The "tacking prop idea" is a helpful analogy for sailors. The propeller isn't doing anything exotic or unusual. It's just doing what propellers do. The analogy of the moving blade to a tacking sail is revealing (to those more familiar with the latter), simple and accurate.No, a whole cart that tacks, not a tacking prop.
If I wanted to hide that, I may use the tacking prop idea, with the assurance that none of you would consult a text book to see if that were true.
I suspect you haven't checked them all yet. You may find someone's made the analogy before or you may not. I'm not that bothered, personally, but do let us know if you happen to find it in print.Not one word in any text book.