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David Tamihere

A high court hearing today presages witness C crashing and burning. For Atheist, this is an historic day for New Zealand justice. No hyperbole:)
 
Witness C was sentenced to 8 years and 7 months for perjury.
Everyone knows John Hughes effectively wrote his testimony, and that witness C was paroled after 9 years for killing in a family feud, but more particularly, executing the girlfriend who came to see what was happening. He would describe it to his girl friend, pleasure like eating ice cream.
I contend the state has failed to educate C, and the state has failed to call to account Hughes, prosecutor David Moriss, and 5 appeal court judges who made false statements when denying Tamiher's appeal. Tamihere did not do the crime.
 
Witness C has now been named... he is Roberto Conchie Harris; himself a double murderer who tried to escape from prison.

This must further bring into serious doubt the idea of using "jailhouse snitches" as witnesses in high profile trials. In too many cases they have been shown to have given false testimony.
 
smartcooky said:
Witness C has now been named... he is Roberto Conchie Harris; himself a double murderer who tried to escape from prison.

This must further bring into serious doubt the idea of using "jailhouse snitches" as witnesses in high profile trials. In too many cases they have been shown to have given false testimony.
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This case is looking dodgier and dodgier the more I read about.

Unless I'm reading it wrong the only substantial evidence looks like it was from 3 crims and

A) they all clash

B) have all proved to be wrong. Dumped body in water (nup). Cut body up (nup)

If Tamihere wasn't such a scumbag I could actually feel sorry for him, rather than just thinking it's police corruption and they need to clear his name.
 
cullennz said:
This case is looking dodgier and dodgier the more I read about.

Unless I'm reading it wrong the only substantial evidence looks like it was from 3 crims and

A) they all clash

B) have all proved to be wrong. Dumped body in water (nup). Cut body up (nup)

If Tamihere wasn't such a scumbag I could actually feel sorry for him, rather than just thinking it's police corruption and they need to clear his name.
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Not to mention Stefan's stolen watch (nup, it was found still on his body)

He might be a scumbag, but he doesn't deserve to be tagged as a murderer or to have been put away for it. Everyone is entitled to justice regardless of who they are.

All he was really guilty of was stealing their (apparently) abandoned Subaru Wagon.
 
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smartcooky said:
Not to mention Stefan's stolen watch (nup, it was found still on his body)

He might be a scumbag, but he doesn't deserve to be tagged as a murderer or to have been put away for it. Everyone is entitled to justice regardless of who they are.

All he was really guilty of was stealing their (apparently) abandoned Subaru Wagon.
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Pretty much

Apologise. The scumbag comment is probably harsher than what I actually think.
 
smartcooky said:
He might be a scumbag, but he doesn't deserve to be tagged as a murderer or to have been put away for it. Everyone is entitled to justice regardless of who they are.
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Tamihere was locked in their sights for some reason and there was no way they were going to let him have any natural justice. If the Court of Appeal says that actually finding one of the bodies doesn't constitute fresh evidence, then you know your plight is hopeless.

Part of it is keeping up the facade that NZ is a completely benign place for visitors; having the unsolved murders of two backpackers in the foreign press is not a great look for the tourist industry. I'm sure there is all sorts of pressure to clean up these types of cases quickly.
 
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It is a remarkable coincidence that psychopath Huia George Foley killed the couple, and that a man on the run from a rape and kidnapping rap stole their car. However there is little doubt this happened, I am unclear on the Avondale crime that Tamihere ran from and how egregious it was.
Ultimately this will probably impact badly on a compensation claim, though I consider he has proved his innocence by now.
I am pleased for brother John, the parents, and David's sons that few New Zealanders still think he did the crime.
 
Samson said:
It is a remarkable coincidence that psychopath Huia George Foley killed the couple, and that a man on the run from a rape and kidnapping rap stole their car. However there is little doubt this happened, I am unclear on the Avondale crime that Tamihere ran from and how egregious it was.
Ultimately this will probably impact badly on a compensation claim, though I consider he has proved his innocence by now.
I am pleased for brother John, the parents, and David's sons that few New Zealanders still think he did the crime.
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I might be wrong but I think all his chips have been cashed in 're appeals.

Would take a govt inquiry

Interesting to see if they do given their rather blatant one finger salute to his brother John trying to rejoin Labour a few years ago.

Would have to be through gritted teeth
 
The brother of Urban Hoglin, 23, murder victim has no doubts about Tamihere's guilt:

He says it was terrible Tamihere had been free to kill. Tamihere committed the murders three years after breaking into a house in his Auckland suburb of Avondale in April 1986, where he sexually violated and threatened to kill a 47-year-old woman occupant over six hours.

He pleaded guilty, but absconded while on bail. In the intervening years, he lived on Tamihere family land in Mataroa Bay, Coromandel - where he has since asked the Parole Board to free him to - living rough in bush around the area.

He was arrested in May 1989, for the sexual violation and sentenced to six- and-half years. His link to the Swedish couple surfaced only when a tourist recognised photographs of their car and told police in June 1989 that he was given a ride in it by a man called "Pat Kelly", who turned out to be Tamihere.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2315697/Heidis-family-cling-to-hope

So, it wasn't just a Shawshank Redemption-style prison snitch who fingered Tamihere, there was an independent neutral eye witness as to having seen the car belonging to the murder victims, and being given a lift in it by an man giving a false name. That man was Tamihere.
 
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Vixen said:
The brother of Urban Hoglin, 23, murder victim has no doubts about Tamihere's guilt:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2315697/Heidis-family-cling-to-hope

So, it wasn't just a Shawshank Redemption-style prison snitch who fingered Tamihere, there was an independent neutral eye witness as to having seen the car belonging to the murder victims, and being given a lift in it by an man giving a false name. That man was Tamihere.
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Tamihere said he stole the car, if he had known the owners were dead he would not drive it around unless he wanted to be caught and accused.
 
Vixen said:
Aaaah. Riiiight.
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hey, no one in New Zealand now believes he killed this couple.
Realistically I consider you a clever person who has been dragged off piste.
I have no idea why or how.
 
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