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Danny Jowenko - Manipulated by 9/11 Deniers

Translation:

His opinion on the Twin Towers, being a huge embarrassment in the light of our dependency on Jowenko's opinion on WTC7, must be destroyed at all costs. Using the tortured logic above I deem Danny to have reversed his opinion on WTC1+2, by default.

eta: too funny

It doesn't really matter whether Danny confirms his initial impression that WTC1 and WTC2 were not controlled demolitions. His assertion and confirmation that WTC7 WAS a controlled demolition is enough on it's own.
Remember- If there is a problem with WTC7 then there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.
 
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It doesn't really matter whether Danny confirms his initial impression that WTC1 and WTC2 were not controlled demolitions. His assertion and confirmation that WTC7 WAS a controlled demolition is enough on it's own.
Remember- If there is a problem with WTC7 then there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

Then, as I said the last time this came to light, we can safely leave all other aspects of twooferism behind us and focus on proving Danny Jowenko was wrong about WTC 7. That being the case, I'd expect the twoof movement to cease to exist once that is done, correct?
 
Then, as I said the last time this came to light, we can safely leave all other aspects of twooferism behind us and focus on proving Danny Jowenko was wrong about WTC 7. That being the case, I'd expect the twoof movement to cease to exist once that is done, correct?

And as I think I said the last time too I reckon you should go right ahead and do that if you think it's the way to go.
 
And as I think I said the last time too I reckon you should go right ahead and do that if you think it's the way to go.

Just as long as we all agree that WTCs 1 and 2 collapsed due to fire and impact damage, which Jowenko agreed to, I have no problem accepting him as twoofer spokesperson number one when it comes to WTC 7. As Jowenko was lied to when first shown videos of WTC 7s collapse, and he hasn't been heard from since he allegedly made a telephone interview with a twoofer a couple of years ago, it should now be your number one priority to get a hold of Jowenko, drag him into the spot light and finally put the government to task when it comes to WTC 7.

In the mean time, I will keep pointing at the heaps of evidence showing Jowenko was wrong about WTC 7, and we'll have us a merry-go-round. As you are a TruthTM seeker, you will not settle with this situation, of course, but will press ever onwards toward finally being able to present credible evidence for a CD of WTC 7.
 
W R O N G

His interview was presented on the Dutch news program "Zembia Investigates 9/11 Theories (2006).

If that is not an official enough statement, I don't know what is ! ! !

You made just another sieg heil from the OCT gallery DGM.

MM

Hee hee, you hear that folks, no need for your architect to seal your drawings, just have him get blindsided on TV and pull an idiotic opinion out of his ass.
 
Has Danny retracted his WTC 7 CD statement since he read the final NIST report, released November, '08? After all, his "confirmation" phone call was made much earlier.
 
He has not retracted it, though i doubt he read much if any of the nist report. Besides, his opinion on wtc1/2 is that they were NOT controlled demolitions. It Is his opinion on wtc7 that has the truth movement all hot for him.

TAM:)
 
It doesn't really matter whether Danny confirms his initial impression that WTC1 and WTC2 were not controlled demolitions. His assertion and confirmation that WTC7 WAS a controlled demolition is enough on it's own.
Remember- If there is a problem with WTC7 then there is a problem with the whole 9/11 official story.

Alternatively...

It doesn't really matter whether Danny confirms his initial impression that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. His assertion and confirmation that WTC 1 and WTC 2 WAS NOT a controlled demolition is enough on it's own.
Remember- If there is no problem with WTC 1 and WTC 2 then there is no problem with the whole 9/11 official story.
 
Bill WANTS to see a problem with WTC7 so he can go on trolling. That's why he latches on to the most ill-informed of all nearly-experts in the world: Danny Jowenko. The man who did not know that fires had burned in WTC7. The man who was kept in the dark about the fact that no explosions were recorded by any video camera. The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure. The man who never studied any of the scientific studies about WTC7. The man who did not even know when the building collapsed. The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics, because as an explosive demolisher, all that is entirely irrelevant to his profession. The man who is therefore neither an expert on the relevant subjects nor sufficiently informed. The man who is so much not the authority to go to. The man who stands alone in the world of professional peers with his ad-hoc opinion. The man who has never demolished anything in the USA and therefore knows nothing about the way public bidding is done there. The man who sits an ocean away, uninterested, ignorantly.
 
Bill WANTS to see a problem with WTC7 so he can go on trolling. That's why he latches on to the most ill-informed of all nearly-experts in the world: Danny Jowenko. The man who did not know that fires had burned in WTC7. The man who was kept in the dark about the fact that no explosions were recorded by any video camera. The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure. The man who never studied any of the scientific studies about WTC7. The man who did not even know when the building collapsed. The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics, because as an explosive demolisher, all that is entirely irrelevant to his profession. The man who is therefore neither an expert on the relevant subjects nor sufficiently informed. The man who is so much not the authority to go to. The man who stands alone in the world of professional peers with his ad-hoc opinion. The man who has never demolished anything in the USA and therefore knows nothing about the way public bidding is done there. The man who sits an ocean away, uninterested, ignorantly.
Oystein, you prove yourself to be just another OCT liar.

Danny Jowenko is a qualified expert in the controlled demolition of concrete and steel buildings who was willing to go on the public record with his opinion on WTC7. An opinion he re-confirmed a year later.

You Oystein are an alias hiding out on an internet forum.

Fires were discussed in the original interview.

Danny did not hesitate in maintaining his professional opinion that absolutely fire could not have caused the collapse of WTC7.

Danny was well aware of what he did and didn't hear when observing the WTC7 collapse video. He made no qualification to his opinion based on missing audio.

A major lie Oystein, "The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure."

Danny Jowenko was not in any way coerced, and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video.

You lie again Oystein, when you make your unsubstantiated claim that "The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics.."

Since when does knowing when WTC7 collapsed have any bearing on his ability to judge the collapse video?

Your whole post is absolute garbage.

MM
 
Danny Jowenko is a qualified expert in the controlled demolition of concrete and steel buildings who was willing to go on the public record with his opinion on WTC7. An opinion he re-confirmed a year later.

Did he not also confirm his opinion on WTC1 & 2 in much greater detail?
 
Danny Jowenko was not in any way coerced, and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video.

Your whole post is absolute garbage.

MM

Angry truther is angry! What have you heard from your hero lately? Hmmm? What did he say about the final NIST report? Hmmmm? You gonna make up some stuff about how he read the interim NIST report again, hmmm?

If Danny Jowenko "and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video," well then he is an idiot. The grossly misleading, silent video presented by someone who lied to him, and he gave an uninformed, off the cuff opinion? Dumb dumb dumb.

And you keep talking about surreptitiously recorded audio tape made by Bob and Doug McKenzie’s slower, dumber brother.

“Oh yeah, eh, that really looked like a building that was aboot to be blown up, eh?”

Classic truther!
 
Jowenko is human like the rest of us. We aren't perfect or omnipotent, even when we have years of experience in things. Truthers' I suppose think authority figures are like perfect beings though and that if they're wrong it's always because they're coerced, and never that they are just simply wrong.
 
Oystein, you prove yourself to be just another OCT liar.

If by the end of this reply I find you have not found a lie in what I posted, you will be reported.

Danny Jowenko is a qualified expert in the controlled demolition of concrete and steel buildings who was willing to go on the public record with his opinion on WTC7. An opinion he re-confirmed a year later.

I did not say anything to the contrary. Yes, he is an expert for explosive CD. Yes, he was willing to get interviewed by some Dutch TV crew.
What was saying is: a) He is not an expert for fires in buildings and b) he was clearly ill-informed, which severely deprecates his value as an expert.
I did not lie.

You Oystein are an alias hiding out on an internet forum.

That means? Do I claim to be an expert? No.
I did not lie.

Fires were discussed in the original interview.

Yes. That's where Danny expressed surprise that the building was on fire, and went on to assume that the fires were so small they could have been put out by hand. Which of course is very very far from the truth.
That original interview contains the proof that Danny was in fact ill-informed about the fires.
I didn't lie.

Danny did not hesitate in maintaining his professional opinion that absolutely fire could not have caused the collapse of WTC7.

I never said he hesitated offering that opinion. All I say is: He is not an expert on burning buildings, and he was crassly misinformed.
I did not lie.

Danny was well aware of what he did and didn't hear when observing the WTC7 collapse video. He made no qualification to his opinion based on missing audio.

How do you know what he was or wasn't aware of? Naturally, if he was not aware about the lack of sound, or the significance thereof, he would not have commented on the sound (or lack thereof). Which is what he did.
I did not lie there. You just speculate.

A major lie Oystein, "The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure." Danny Jowenko was not in any way coerced, and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video.

I did not say "coerced". He was under a time constraint, because the film crew was there then. He had no time to look at any details, evidence or studies other than what the film crew presented to him. Therefore, he was forced by the brevity of the interview (and, presumably, business priorities) to form an opinion quickly.
The "forced" is not to be construed as a method of getting any opinion from him, it refers to the "quick and dirty".
I did not lie, you did not understand me well.

You lie again Oystein, when you make your unsubstantiated claim that "The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics.."

Do you know anything about his experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics? Do you know anybody who knows?
Tell me what you know, or who knows. If you can't, then I will maintain that Jowenko has in fact no such experience known to anybody, and I did not lie.

Since when does knowing when WTC7 collapsed have any bearing on his ability to judge the collapse video?

You did watch the video, right? Jowenko had formed his opinion at a time when he thought a CD team was given several days in a non-burning building to rig it. You did notice his confusion when he learned that they only had a few hours? Had to change his opinion ad hoc. He didn't come full circle round to the conclusion that in fact a CD was very unlikely. He can be forgiven, given the lack of time to think this through.
Obviously, any theory about CDing WTC7 must explain in what timeframe the rigging did take place.
I did not lie. You just spoke from ignorance.

Your whole post is absolute garbage.

You failed to show that anything I said was a lie.


Your post will be reported.
 
Oystein, you prove yourself to be just another OCT liar.

Danny Jowenko is a qualified expert in the controlled demolition of concrete and steel buildings who was willing to go on the public record with his opinion on WTC7. An opinion he re-confirmed a year later.

You Oystein are an alias hiding out on an internet forum.

Fires were discussed in the original interview.

Danny did not hesitate in maintaining his professional opinion that absolutely fire could not have caused the collapse of WTC7.

Danny was well aware of what he did and didn't hear when observing the WTC7 collapse video. He made no qualification to his opinion based on missing audio.

A major lie Oystein, "The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure."

Danny Jowenko was not in any way coerced, and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video.

You lie again Oystein, when you make your unsubstantiated claim that "The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics.."

Since when does knowing when WTC7 collapsed have any bearing on his ability to judge the collapse video?

Your whole post is absolute garbage.

MM

And people, like myself, who are more than qualified to determine that fire COULD in fact cause the collapse of a steel framed structure, and HAS done so in the past, show that Danny is not speaking intelligently.

BTW, you keep citing two accounts from Danny that he claims 7WTC was taken down by explosives. Can you point to both of the interviews?

Thanks.
 
Oystein, you prove yourself to be just another OCT liar.

Danny Jowenko is a qualified expert in the controlled demolition of concrete and steel buildings who was willing to go on the public record with his opinion on WTC7. An opinion he re-confirmed a year later.

You Oystein are an alias hiding out on an internet forum.

Fires were discussed in the original interview.

Danny did not hesitate in maintaining his professional opinion that absolutely fire could not have caused the collapse of WTC7.

Danny was well aware of what he did and didn't hear when observing the WTC7 collapse video. He made no qualification to his opinion based on missing audio.

A major lie Oystein, "The man who was forced to form a quick and dirty opinion based upon looking at a very rough blue print of the building structure."

Danny Jowenko was not in any way coerced, and he gave his opinion freely and quickly once he saw the WTC7 collapse video.

You lie again Oystein, when you make your unsubstantiated claim that "The man who has no known experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics.."

Since when does knowing when WTC7 collapsed have any bearing on his ability to judge the collapse video?

Your whole post is absolute garbage.

MM

You know MM, a post like that is worth getting reported. You're attacking the arguer & not the argument.
 
If by the end of this reply I find you have not found a lie in what I posted, you will be reported.



I did not say anything to the contrary. Yes, he is an expert for explosive CD. Yes, he was willing to get interviewed by some Dutch TV crew.
What was saying is: a) He is not an expert for fires in buildings and b) he was clearly ill-informed, which severely deprecates his value as an expert.
I did not lie.



That means? Do I claim to be an expert? No.
I did not lie.



Yes. That's where Danny expressed surprise that the building was on fire, and went on to assume that the fires were so small they could have been put out by hand. Which of course is very very far from the truth.
That original interview contains the proof that Danny was in fact ill-informed about the fires.
I didn't lie.



I never said he hesitated offering that opinion. All I say is: He is not an expert on burning buildings, and he was crassly misinformed.
I did not lie.



How do you know what he was or wasn't aware of? Naturally, if he was not aware about the lack of sound, or the significance thereof, he would not have commented on the sound (or lack thereof). Which is what he did.
I did not lie there. You just speculate.



I did not say "coerced". He was under a time constraint, because the film crew was there then. He had no time to look at any details, evidence or studies other than what the film crew presented to him. Therefore, he was forced by the brevity of the interview (and, presumably, business priorities) to form an opinion quickly.
The "forced" is not to be construed as a method of getting any opinion from him, it refers to the "quick and dirty".
I did not lie, you did not understand me well.



Do you know anything about his experience with building conflagrations, fire fighting or related topics? Do you know anybody who knows?
Tell me what you know, or who knows. If you can't, then I will maintain that Jowenko has in fact no such experience known to anybody, and I did not lie.



You did watch the video, right? Jowenko had formed his opinion at a time when he thought a CD team was given several days in a non-burning building to rig it. You did notice his confusion when he learned that they only had a few hours? Had to change his opinion ad hoc. He didn't come full circle round to the conclusion that in fact a CD was very unlikely. He can be forgiven, given the lack of time to think this through.
Obviously, any theory about CDing WTC7 must explain in what timeframe the rigging did take place.
I did not lie. You just spoke from ignorance.



You failed to show that anything I said was a lie.



Your post will be reported.

Forgetting to report that Danny got over the fact that he had initially been as you put it 'ill-informed' by studying the drawings and design of the building in his capacity as a professional demolition expert and STILL coming even more positively to the conclusion that WTC7 had been a controlled demolition could amount to a lie of omission.(see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4 Jeff Hill/Dnny Jowenko
 
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Forgetting to report that Danny got over the fact that he had initially been as you put it 'ill-informed' by studying the drawings and design of the building in his capacity as a professional demolition expert and STILL coming even more positively to the conclusion that WTC7 had been a controlled demolition could amount to a lie of omission.(see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajDxF9uEf4 Jeff Hill/Dnny Jowenko

Jowenko admits that he has no evidence to counter the 9/11 Commission. So why are you fixated on Jowenko when he doesn't have evidence to the contrary?
 

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