Danny Jowenko - Manipulated by 9/11 Deniers

[Oystein]

Your assumption was in your statement; "Jowenko still thinks..".

You do not know, and have provided no basis for a belief that he still thinks it was a small fire.

MM

Do YOU know what he still thinks with regards to the size of the fires? How?
How does your answer to this question translate into an argument supporting Jowenko's and your belief?

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Your assumption was in your statement; "Jowenko still thinks..".

You do not know, and have provided no basis for a belief that he still thinks it was a small fire.

MM

You directly quote Jowenko saying "But that was a small fire" and call it my assumption?? Wow... that's a new level of oblivion for you, MM.

 

[Miragememories]

"Big or small, long lasting or short, Danny Jowenko remained firm that fires, could not have created the WTC 7 collapse."

"And without an explanation for why either NIST is wrong, or how what's known about the collapse contradicts the notion, his statement is worthless."

The NIST pioneered a theory which they have failed to defend against serious short comings.

Danny Jowenko gave an honest, experienced, professional opinion, that matches well with the know history of concrete and steel buildings
subjected to fire vs those subjected to controlled demolitions.

To say his opinion is worthless is nothing more than a reflection of your arrogance and prejudice.

MM

 

[uke2se]

The NIST pioneered a theory which they have failed to defend against serious short comings.

Danny Jowenko gave an honest, experienced, professional opinion, that matches well with the know history of concrete and steel buildings
subjected to fire vs those subjected to controlled demolitions.

To say his opinion is worthless is nothing more than a reflection of your arrogance and prejudice.

MM

I'd say NIST have defended it excellently against people with serious short comings.

 

[Bell]

The NIST pioneered a theory which they have failed to defend against serious short comings.

Danny Jowenko gave an honest, experienced, professional opinion, that matches well with the know history of concrete and steel buildings
subjected to fire vs those subjected to controlled demolitions.

To say his opinion is worthless is nothing more than a reflection of your arrogance and prejudice.

MM

Yet dismissing the NIST reports proofs your intellectual superiority.

 

[The Big Dog]

Your assumption was in your statement; "Jowenko still thinks..".

You do not know, and have provided no basis for a belief that he still thinks it was a small fire.

MM

Uh, "still thinks"? Hey that reminds me, I pointed out that all of your comments about Danny predate the NIST report, what's he had to say lately?

Did he ever learn that the truthers that interviewed him showed him an edited version of the collapse and lied to him about where the collapse began?

Take your time, MM. Hell, Danny hasn't said a peep since 2007 as far as you have shown. Da Truth is right around the corner!

 

[bill smith]

Until we point out that Jowenko thinks the WTC towers weren't CD, effectively dismantling your religion. I'd say it's win-win for everyone BUT the twoofers.

See my previous post.

 

[Miragememories]

You directly quote Jowenko saying "But that was a small fire" and call it my assumption?? Wow... that's a new level of oblivion for you, MM.

Read again.

"Jowenko still thinks it was a small fire, not a series of extensive ones, thus continuing to demonstrate an inaccurate understanding of the situation."

You were making a current assumption with your statement; "Jowenko still thinks".

He made that quick comment during the first interview.

Though, it is also quite possible that Danny Jowenko considers the WTC7 fire to have been relatively small!


MM

 

[carlitos]

Read again.



You were making a current assumption with your statement; "Jowenko still thinks".

He made that quick comment during the first interview.

Though, it is also quite possible that Danny Jowenko considers the WTC7 fire to have been relatively small!


MM

At that point in the video, Jowenko still thinks that.

Some times people use the present tense when they discuss the past.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

To say his opinion is worthless is nothing more than a reflection of your arrogance and prejudice.

MM

No, most of us don't consider a job title the sole criteria that's makes his answers credible. I guess that's your definition of arrogance and prejudice.

 

[Oystein]

@ Miragememories: My two questions are still open. Please answer them now:

* Is Jowenko an expert on the behaviour of burning buildings? Should be a yes or a NO!
* Has Jowenko looked at the matter in any detail at all after the original interview? Should be a yes, no, or I DON'T KNOW!

 

[Miragememories]

How extremely disingenious of you to brush over the fact that Jowenko was pretty much clueless ("But that was a small fire") about the nature and extent of the fires and therefore drawing conclusions from WRONG premises!

Huh???? Wrong??? What you quote there shows my claim was right: Ging into the interview, Jowenko had no idea that WTC7 fell the same day! You quote him as he is caught in the biggest surprise - he clearly indicates that he did not know it! He was told during the interview! So did Jowenko do a careful analysis of the events? Hell no! How disingeneous of you to brush over that very important fact!

That is NOT what I asked! I asked if Jowenko is an expert in the behaviour of burning buildings! How disingeneous of you to quote my question and then answer a different one!

MM, did you notice that you quoted two very specific questions, and that you wrote many words, without answering the two questions at all? What a disingeneous dodge!! You quoted Jowenko, but you did NOT answer my question, if he had at all studied the collapse at all since the original interview!

My two questions are still open. Please answer them now:

* Is Jowenko an expert on the behaviour of burning buildings? Should be a yes or a NO!
* Has Jowenko looked at the matter in any detail at all after the original interview? Should be a yes, no, or I DON'T KNOW!

Maybe if your english comprehension was better I would pickup your confusion easier.

I answered the questions as asked.

I have said a number of times that Danny Jowenko was blind-sided in the interview and that was how he got caught giving an honest opinion about WTC7 before considering the political ramifications.

Try reading before you write Oystein.

 

[Bell]

Maybe if your english comprehension was better I would pickup your confusion easier.

I answered the questions as asked.

I have said a number of times that Danny Jowenko was blind-sided in the interview and that was how he got caught giving an honest opinion about WTC7 before considering the political ramifications.

Try reading before you write Oystein.

An honest opinion is ALL Jowenko gave. Doesn't proof anything.

o·pin·ion

1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

 

[Oystein]

Maybe if your english comprehension was better I would pickup your confusion easier.

I answered the questions as asked.

I have said a number of times that Danny Jowenko was blind-sided in the interview and that was how he got caught giving an honest opinion about WTC7 before considering the political ramifications.

Try reading before you write Oystein.

No. You answered the questions as they were NOT asked.

Please do so now:

* Is Jowenko an expert on the behaviour of burning buildings? Should be a yes or a NO!
* Has Jowenko looked at the matter in any detail at all after the original interview? Should be a yes, no, or I DON'T KNOW!

 

[The Big Dog]

I have said a number of times that Danny Jowenko was blind-sided in the interview and that was how he got caught giving an honest opinion about WTC7 before considering the political ramifications.

Now THAT is a ringing endorsement!

Is "blindsided" the new definition of lied to and shown a misleading video?

I'll agree with that.

Any news since, say, Obama has been President, truther?

 

[Miragememories]

@ Miragememories: My two questions are still open. Please answer them now:

* Is Jowenko an expert on the behaviour of burning buildings? Should be a yes or a NO!
* Has Jowenko looked at the matter in any detail at all after the original interview? Should be a yes, no, or I DON'T KNOW!

I answered the first question previously.

Here it is again;
"Danny Jowenko is an expert in the controlled demolition of buildings."

In response to your second question, I would have to say yes.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

Now THAT is a ringing endorsement!

Is "blindsided" the new definition of lied to and shown a misleading video?

I'll agree with that.

Any news since, say, Obama has been President, truther?

Go back and read the last pages of this thread.

Otherwise your comments are totally meaningless.

Which would appear to be your intention.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

An honest opinion is ALL Jowenko gave. Doesn't proof anything.

o·pin·ion

1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

So you've got a dictionary.

Congratulations.

MM

 

[uke2se]

Go back and read the last pages of this thread.

Otherwise your comments are totally meaningless.

Which would appear to be your intention.

MM

He doesn't need to re read anything. 16.5's assessment was correct. "Blindsided" in this case can only mean lied to and shown a misleading video.

 

[Bell]

So you've got a dictionary.

Congratulations.

MM

And you have Jowenko with an opinion. Well, opinions are like a-holes. Everybody has one. Congrats to you.