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Dan Wallace vs. Mark Roberts video

If he's trying to make money using Slaptiback's image, he may be stepping in something.
 
I can watch but not listen.

One thing is clear in this video: there is something terribly wrong with hat-fashion in NYC!
But I guess that's not Dylan's point.
 
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How Gravy can do that without punching those people is a mystery to me. What a pair of jerks.

Dan says he doesn't know the official version, but he knows that it's wrong. Gravy tries to explain the NIST collapse scenario and these two morons keep interrupting. Then they act like he is running away when he has clearly told them already that he has to be somewhere else.

If I ever get my act together and get to travel to NY I will make it my mission to find Gravy and shake his hand.
 
Mark looks and sounds like Robert De Niro.

But he's twice as cool.
 
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eddyk said:
Mark looks and sounds like Robert De Niro.

But he's twice as cool.
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The young lad Mark is talking to is the son of a fire fighter who died on 911. He made it his life to find out the truth for his father. He died last week. Mark is so very respectful of victims.
 
Mark is approached by Dan (RIP). At first, Mark Declines to talk to Dan because he has places to go.

Basically it goes downhill from there for the Truthers. They continually state (incorrectly) that NIST is not looking into WTC7. At one point the camera man even states that the NIST report is not the official story.

The truthers then continue to state that the official story has changed. This is despite the fact that Mark reminds them numerous times that the official report has not changed since its release in 2005. They then continue to state that "it changed before that" - failing to realize that this is what happens during investigations as new information comes to light.

The truthers also continue to point out that the investigation took 4 years to release - failing to realize that investigations take time.

And as it turns out, the truthers admit that they are arguing against the official story, but have no idea what it states. Neither of them can name the NIST collapse mechanism.

I fail to see how anyone could think that Dan and the Cameraman came out on top after this.

Top job Gravy.
 
Isn't it disrespecting victims to talk to them like that. There are many dead firefighters families who want answers.
 
Aphelion said:
Mark is so very respectful of victims.
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I REALLY hope you are not being sarcastic.

Mark clearly took the time to introduce himself. In another video, Mark states he is sorry to hear about Dan's loss.

Dan may have been personally connected to 9/11, but that does not make him correct. Dan was misguided, but had good intentions.
 
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Isn't it disrespecting victims to talk to them like that. There are many dead firefighters families who want answers.
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No it is not. Mark never said anything about Dan or his father. He was talking about the collapse mechanism.

Facts - not emotions.
 
I think its disrespecting to talk to Mark like that. Mark's full time job isn't to prove conspiracy theorists wrong. He has a life y'know.
 
Ok. As I already knew, Mark comes out of this as a standout winner. I'll watch this once I get home. RIP Dan.
 
Aphelion said:
Isn't it disrespecting victims to talk to them like that. There are many dead firefighters families who want answers.
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I didn't see Mark disrespecting Dan. He tried several times to explain some facts and was constantly interrupted. He was being harassed yet he kept his cool. More than I could have done, victim or not.
 
Brainache said:
I didn't see Mark disrespecting Dan. He tried several times to explain some facts and was constantly interrupted. He was being harassed yet he kept his cool. More than I could have done, victim or not.
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Mark has spoken to me twice on this forum. The second time he spoke to me he accused me of taking drugs, called me paranoid and said I need to see a doctor. Then made a joke about my username. He also did that in his first post to pme.

Do you know what I said to deserve that tirade? I simply implied that Judy Wood wasnt mad and was intentionally discrediting the truth movement. Mark does not know how to be respectful.
 
Aphelion said:
The young lad Mark is talking to is the son of a fire fighter who died on 911. He made it his life to find out the truth for his father. He died last week. Mark is so very respectful of victims.
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There are people in that group, including its leader, who claim the FDNY was "In on it," jackass. I haven't seen any firefighters hugging them. Several have hugged me and thanked me for what I do. Sometimes when the fire trucks drive by, the firefighters jeer at the "inside job" protesters.

You're spinning farther and farther from the sun, Aphelion. Get a grip on yourself.
 
Gravy said:
There are people in that group, including its leader, who claim the FDNY was "In on it," jackass. I haven't seen any firefighters hugging them. Several have hugged me and thanked me for what I do. Sometimes when the fire trucks drive by, the firefighters jeer at the "inside job" protesters.

You're spinning farther and farther from the sun, Aphelion. Get a grip on yourself.
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Your third post to me and more insults. I am too mature to retaliate.
 
Aphelion said:
Mark has spoken to me twice on this forum. The second time he spoke to me he accused me of taking drugs, called me paranoid and said I need to see a doctor. Then made a joke about my username. He also did that in his first post to pme.

Do you know what I said to deserve that tirade? I simply implied that Judy Wood wasnt mad and was intentionally discrediting the truth movement. Mark does not know how to be respectful.
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Around here, it's put up or shut up. Start a new thread and present your evidence that Judy Wood is working to discredit the "truth" movement. You won't, because you don't have any such evidence.
 
Aphelion said:
Mark has spoken to me twice on this forum. The second time he spoke to me he accused me of taking drugs, called me paranoid and said I need to see a doctor. Then made a joke about my username. He also did that in his first post to pme.

Do you know what I said to deserve that tirade? I simply implied that Judy Wood wasnt mad and was intentionally discrediting the truth movement. Mark does not know how to be respectful.
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I have seen him be respectful.

Did it occur to you that maybe his remarks about you talking to a doctor about your beliefs were actually intended to be helpful? It may be that you actually are paranoid and that seeking help might be what you should do for your own good?

Anyway he doesn't need me to defend him, so I'll shut up now.
 
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