Crop circle debunking help needed

[chuck4842]

Oh sorry I forgot, he just plants some seeds in spring and then sits with his feet up with nothing to do until September.

Are you for real?

There's a dfference between 18 hrs. and 0 hrs. it's ummm, lemmee grab my calculator....e i gh t een minus, ok 18 hrs.

 

[23_Tauri]

The mistake here, is I'm stating I wouldn't be in the light, I'd set up camp near my field when the crop was starting to mature, it's warm right?

Even if you're the farmer right at the heart of 'crop circle country' in Wiltshire, you've got dozens of fields and 60+ summer nights. Even if you got lucky and were in on the edge of the right field on the right night, the problem would be that even when standing on the edge of one of your fields, their size means that you won't see or hear a small group of people are quietly flattening wheat 600 yards away.

Here's a Google Earth screen grab of one of the more popular locations for cc's to give you an idea of distances:

 

[23_Tauri]

Yeah, and them dang aliens keep going there. Same bat channel, same bat day. My point was England's small in the 1st place. But if you divide it , it can't be that difficult to do some surveillance. Motion sensors aren't high. A dog maybe even?

Here's a dog for you:

hey y'all, it's just a leeeetle country....

 

[Lamuella]

There's a dfference between 18 hrs. and 0 hrs. it's ummm, lemmee grab my calculator....e i gh t een minus, ok 18 hrs.

so, what hours do you think a farmer works?

 

[Stray Cat]

There's a dfference between 18 hrs. and 0 hrs. it's ummm, lemmee grab my calculator....e i gh t een minus, ok 18 hrs.

OK so you can do maths (with the help of a calculator) but you can't calculate (or research) what long hours are involved in farming?

So where's this sacred geometry filled crop circle you want me to explain how easy it is to plot out?
ETA: I'm itching to get some diagrams done

 

[Akhenaten]

Yeah, and them dang aliens keep going there. Same bat channel, same bat day. My point was England's small in the 1st place. But if you divide it , it can't be that difficult to do some surveillance.

It's not just crop circles that you know nothing about, is it?

Motion sensors aren't high.

Perhaps they could be attached to sticks.

A dog maybe even?

And another one for the north of England?

Yep, that'll do it.

 

[chuck4842]

Even if you're the farmer right at the heart of 'crop circle country' in Wiltshire, you've got dozens of fields and 60+ summer nights. Even if you got lucky and were in on the edge of the right field on the right night, the problem would be that even when standing on the edge of one of your fields, their size means that you won't see or hear a small group of people are quietly flattening wheat 600 yards away.

Here's a Google Earth screen grab of one of the more popular locations for cc's to give you an idea of distances:

[qimg]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/debs711/FieldbelowMilkHill.jpg[/qimg]

That does give me a better perspective of the problem. I could catch people making a formation in any county of England with a small budget I think.

 

[Stray Cat]

And another one for the north of England?

Yep, that'll do it.

Oh noes!.... with 2 dogs I know some people who'll have to find a new hobby this summer.

 

[Stray Cat]

I could catch people making a formation in any county of England with a small budget I think.

All counties in England have a small budget. It's only a very small country innit?.

 

[23_Tauri]

That does give me a better perspective of the problem. I could catch people making a formation in any county of England with a small budget I think.

You think? Remember you're a farmer in high summer, busiest time of the year, so spare time is not something you have in abundance. Small budget? How small? And for what?

 

[Stray Cat]

Small budget? How small? And for what?

He needs to feed his dog (maybe 2 if he has one in the North too).

 

[Lamuella]

That does give me a better perspective of the problem. I could catch people making a formation in any county of England with a small budget I think.

OK, explain how you would police (to pick one example) cambridgeshire on a small budget.

Or for more of a challenge, North Yorkshire

 

[23_Tauri]

He needs to feed his dog (maybe 2 if he has one in the North too).

Northern dog and southern dog. That'll be a Yorkshire Terrier and a Sussex Spaniel then. Both small so yes a small budget would suffice.

 

[Lamuella]

so in summary, this is what we know:

It is physically possible for any of the circles we have seen to have been made by humans with boards and measuring tapes.

We have video footage of people making circles with boards and measuring tapes.

And yet it's impossible that all these crop circles were made by humans because... farmers have dogs and spend their nights watching their fields?

 

[chuck4842]

Perhaps they could be attached to sticks.
.

If putting a post in the ground is above your ability than yes. But most farmers are familiar with the activity.

And another one for the north of England?

Yep, that'll do it.

I mistakenly assumed that some of England's farmers had dogs. Am I wrong? Should I do an in depth research of it, publishing my findings, or can we just accept it as true common sense?

 

[23_Tauri]

OK, explain how you would police (to pick one example) cambridgeshire on a small budget.

And then please get in touch with Cambridgeshire Constabulary, who will be delighted to hear from you.

ETA: they already have lots of dogs, btw. Large ones.

 

[chuck4842]

And then please get in touch with Cambridgeshire Constabulary, who will be delighted to hear from you.

ETA: they already have lots of dogs, btw. Large ones.

Thanks, we agree than.

 

[Stray Cat]

I mistakenly assumed that some of England's farmers had dogs. Am I wrong? Should I do an in depth research of it, publishing my findings, or can we just accept it as true common sense?

As far as I know, the English farmers are not in the habit of hiring their dogs out to visiting Americans who want to catch human circlemakers.
I think you'd be needing your own dog to implement your own cunning plan.

 

[23_Tauri]

Thanks, we agree than.

Errr... no, I don't think we do.

So, how are you going to police Cambridgeshire on a small budget again?

And please post a formation based on sacred geometry so Stray Cat can show you how it's done.

Thank you.

 

[zooterkin]

Well, I must say I'm confused by all of this. Cambridgeshire is not in the South of England, it's in East Anglia, and the fields they have there are huge.