I'm not refuting any of that, nor do I think scientists would.
Not any worth their salt.
The proposed mechanisms are much different that what you describe because they agree with you.
Not following.
The disagreement centers around the conclusion you draw, not the set-up.
Not following.
Daniel: Then the WOOLLY Mammoth in the Room...
B. How Did Stupid Atoms Write Their Own Software....? In other words, show how Ink/Paper/Glue Molecules can Author Technical Instruction Manuals/Blueprints...?
marplots: Exactly. That's the interesting thing - how did it happen? How might it have happened? What steps are needed before we get to the part with the functioning cell, or life as we might recognize it?
Now we are discussing a completely different aspect IN TOTO. Above we were discussing the "Physical Molecules" (Hardware), this is speaking to "INFORMATION" (Software). See that Highlighted Part?? Basically, you need to show this...?
You (or anyone for that matter) will NEVER EVER be able to reconcile this. "Information"/CODE is only ever ever ever created/reconciled by Intelligent Agency, without Exception. Hard Stop!
There's no way out.
It's not an argument, it's a postulate.
Postulate: 1. to ask, demand, or claim. 2. to claim or assume the existence or truth of, especially as a basis for reasoning or arguing.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/postulate
You are in the same position. You can postulate some intelligent designer if you like, but even if you have one in mind, you still need to prove they actually did what you think they did and it wasn't just natural laws playing out.
Actually I'm not. My Argument/Position is an Intelligent Designer and "Information" is the compelling Factor in the matter; EXHIBIT A to Z. Your appeal here is...
You walk into a restaurant, open up the Menu and read "Peking Duck with Roasted Garlic $28.95" ---- INFORMATION; then conclude, that until you see the Specific Intelligent Agent that wrote it.... that there's an Equal Chance that the Ink/Paper/Glue Molecules that make up the menu are responsible for the: Construction, Arrangement of the Letters, and the Message Thereof !!
DNA contains INFORMATION: Algorithms "Programs" within "Programs" in Sub-Folders of "Programs". It has enough Functionally Specific Complex Information (1/1000th of which would make Einstein Blush) in a teaspoon to fill a stack of Books from here to the Moon 500 Times! Your conclusion: Absent the Specific Intelligent Agent...... Ribose, Nucleo-Bases, and Activated Phosphates (The Ink/Paper/Glue Molecules) wrote The "Programs" (Menu).....Genetic CODE !!
Quite an absurd appeal, don't you think?
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