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Courtesy on the JREF forum

Dr Adequate said:
I have often laughed at you, but I have never seen you make a joke. Ever.


Yes, you haven't seen me make a joke, because you don't understand humour. You are the type of person who I would hazard a guess found Mr Bean funny, and Blackadder not at all. You laugh at other people, especially at other peoples' mishaps and misfortunes. This is because it makes you feel superior. You like to belong to a group, and laugh at the loner, or the one who differs and defies social norms. It gives you a warm feel of belonging to a social group, and that group is held together and given legitimacy by ridiculing those whose values lie far outside the group's values.

Most people are like you Dr A. I've experienced them all my life. I've experienced people ridiculing me all my life. I've also experienced peoples' perplexity and bemusement when faced with such a person as I. They don't understand me, you don't, most people don't. So you take refuge by mutual ridiculing. That's not humour Dr A.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Yes, you haven't seen me make a joke, because you don't understand humour.
Wrong. It's because you don't make jokes. Can anyone find a joke made by Ian? Just one? Anywhere? Ever?
You are the type of person who I would hazard a guess found Mr Bean funny, and Blackadder not at all.
Wrong. Blackadder was hilarious, Mr Bean was pants.
You laugh at other people, especially at other peoples' mishaps and misfortunes. This is because it makes you feel superior.
Wrong. I cry at other people's misfortunes. As far as comedy goes I can't even watch FT any more, 'cos I feel too sorry for Basil.
You like to belong to a group
The most stupid lie in this post...
and laugh at the loner, or the one who differs and defies social norms.
Followed by the most offensive lie in this post.
It gives you a warm feel of belonging to a social group, and that group is held together and given legitimacy by ridiculing those whose values lie far outside the group's values.
Believes in the Killer Lesbian Conspiracy, for example.
Most people are like you Dr A.
Wrong.
I've experienced them all my life. I've experienced people ridiculing me all my life. I've also experienced peoples' perplexity and bemusement when faced with such a person as I. They don't understand me, you don't, most people don't.
Anbd the fact that you're incomprehensible doesn't bother you?
So you take refuge by mutual ridiculing. That's not humour Dr A.
You're hardly an expert.

What a witless gibble of lies you've posted about me. You're right, I don't understand you. I don't understand why you constantly lie to people about their opinions, their character, their intelligence, and in this case, what they find funny. The result is inevitable. They will point out that you are lying, and you will be exposed not only as a liar, not only as a rude liar, but also a liar who keeps on lying when he's obviously going to be caught, and, hence, a rude stupid liar. And you do it time and time over. Why do you seek public humiliation in this way time and time again? Why do you want to be thought a rude stupid liar? Yes, I can't understand you. Though the fact that you post when drunk may explain to some extent.
 
Oh Darat! PLEASE don't tell me you went and LOOKED for a "Joke by Ian"?


Incidentally, I agree. Blackadder was great, Mr Bean was 'king awful.
 
Unfortunately, he's not making a joke. He's telling a joke. A very old joke. Which I heard when I was a child. And telling it rather badly.

If he were to make a post that read:

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: To get to the other side.

...this would not be proof of the shining wit he thinks he has... along with his vast intelligence, ability to read minds, and knowledge of philosophy.

Anyone else? Find Interesting Ian's sense of humour, please.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Yes, you haven't seen me make a joke, because you don't understand humour. You are the type of person who I would hazard a guess found Mr Bean funny, and Blackadder not at all. You laugh at other people, especially at other peoples' mishaps and misfortunes. This is because it makes you feel superior. You like to belong to a group, and laugh at the loner, or the one who differs and defies social norms. It gives you a warm feel of belonging to a social group, and that group is held together and given legitimacy by ridiculing those whose values lie far outside the group's values.

Most people are like you Dr A. I've experienced them all my life. I've experienced people ridiculing me all my life. I've also experienced peoples' perplexity and bemusement when faced with such a person as I. They don't understand me, you don't, most people don't. So you take refuge by mutual ridiculing. That's not humour Dr A.

I know I have been guilty of posting this thought before but: This thread takes more and more interesting turns...

btw - I like League of Gentlemen - wonder where that rates me on this scale of funny vs. unfunny?
 
Dr Adequate said:
Wrong. It's because you don't make jokes. Can anyone find a joke made by Ian? Just one? Anywhere? Ever?



No I don't make jokes. I try to be humorous. You know, I employ levity, facetiousness, flippancy, repartee etc

Wrong. Blackadder was hilarious, Mr Bean was pants.

I was saying that your posts fit into a stereotypical type of person. I really can't imagine a person such as you being able to understand the subtle wit involved in Blackadder. Your humour is more reminiscent of Mr Bean.
 
Zep said:
Oh Darat! PLEASE don't tell me you went and LOOKED for a "Joke by Ian"?


Incidentally, I agree. Blackadder was great, Mr Bean was 'king awful.

I think the Mr. Bean/Blackadder thing is a false Dilemma. I find them both funny, though admittedly it depends on my mood at the time which will appeal to me more.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Yes, you haven't seen me make a joke, because you don't understand humour. You are the type of person who I would hazard a guess found Mr Bean funny, and Blackadder not at all. You laugh at other people, especially at other peoples' mishaps and misfortunes. This is because it makes you feel superior. You like to belong to a group, and laugh at the loner, or the one who differs and defies social norms. It gives you a warm feel of belonging to a social group, and that group is held together and given legitimacy by ridiculing those whose values lie far outside the group's values.
There, Dr. A, take that! Instant, yet deep, perceptive analysis of your whole id in one paragraph.

Add water. Stir. Get, .... water. Go to a H'Pathy forum for more detailed instructions.
 
Dr Adequate said:
And more to the point, you'd have a hard time defending such a pathetic lie.


Doc, don’t take my (joke) bait. I’ve never met human who at one time wasn’t ‘arrogant’ at some point, who was not ‘ignorant’ on something and who wasn’t ‘close minded’ to some concept …….. that includes me as much as anyone! :)

(If you doubt you can suffer from such common human fallibility …… yesterday I referred to the principle of cause and effect (causality) being the foundation of science or classical physics with your reply being ‘The people who not only think that it is a scientific concept, but that they know what it is, are using that special blend of ignorance and arrogance that marks out the woowoo’ ) ... still my reply was polite, we don't all need to agree on forums, more interesting if we don't. This skeptic forum needs people like Ian, Amherst, David, Jambo, etc. (and me :) ......) to keep you guys awake :)

And I have a hideous confession to make, I laughed when Mr Bean got a turkey stuck on his head :o :)
 
Nyarlathotep said:
I think the Mr. Bean/Blackadder thing is a false Dilemma. I find them both funny, though admittedly it depends on my mood at the time which will appeal to me more.
Nothing false about that dilemma at all, in that it is no dilemma.

Blackadder was wonderfully biting humour. Even the low-brow was high quality.

Mr Bean was a lame one-joke music-hall gag that never worked from the first time. I'm surprised Rowan Atkinson persisted with it - he's wonderful in other selected comic parts (SOME people liked Bean, I know, I know...*sigh*).

But anyway, what was the topic of the thread? Ah, yes. Courtesy.


*ahem*


Go take a flying leap, you pestilential pile of possum's poo. And get a better name too.
 
Someone on the HealthyPages forum had this to say about the JREF fora:

...I will say that both DR Adequate and Interesting Ian both were polite and very reasonable to me and kind and welcoming and have nothing against them at all, they are able to have a rational convresation. i feel that if those characters wish for a sensible debate they will quite easily have that here at HP, removing the need for us to go to JREF to chat,...

http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=127020

There you go. Dr. Adequate and Interesting Ian are the official exemplars of good behavior. :D
 
As you can see, the level of courtesy at the JREF forum is high enough for everyone to engage in an extremely subtle bit of irony.
 
phildonnia said:
There you go. Dr. Adequate and Interesting Ian are the official exemplars of good behavior. :D
So what the HECK is it like on HealthyPages then??? :eek:
 
Wow!
I spend an entire boring day at work clicking on this forum occasionally and nothing happens, then I go out for a couple of hours and it goes nuts!

All this on a thread about courtesy!

Firstly, let's lay this Blackadder/Mr Bean discussion to rest.
Richard Curtis writes both (as well as Four Weddings and a Funeral and The Tall Guy and Not the Nine O'Clock News and the Vicar of Dibley). He writes genius comedy and examples of this can be seen in all of these.
Several of the Bean sketches were taken from Rowan Atkinson's stage show in the eighties.
Blackadder's genius came from pairing Richard Curtis with Ben Elton. Blackadder 1 (written by Curtis and Atkinson) was okay but is generally considered the weakest of the four, despite being fairly groundbreaking at the time.
Bean was discontinued because Rowan Atkinson got fed up with winning Europen comedy awards (particularly Montreaux).
To make a strict delineation between the two as different types of comedy representing different personality types is ridiculous.

Right, hope that's settled.

With regards to Ian's humour:
Ian, I like you and have mentioned your importance to the board elsewhere, but to consider yourself as having a sense of humour... we haven't really seen much evidence of it.
I'd love to see you lighten up a bit, but as you yourself have said you only want to talk about philosophy.
Hell, you've even given up reading the news to concentrate on this.
Philosophy might be to some an interesting intellectual game, but to study it at the expense of all else seems obsessive. Especially as, almost by definition, it is not something you will ever be able to gt any answers from.

With regards to Darat looking up Ian's joke:
I can't believe you did that.:)

With regards to SezMe's comments on Ian's 'analysis' of Dr A:
If that is a serious attempt by either of you to attempt to comment on someone's personality then I am slightly in awe of your simplicity of thought.
Ian, regardless of how others may have picked on you throughout life, Dr A is a highly intelligent poster with a fine sense of humour.
On these boards we don't ridicule a person. We can't. It's all just words on an internet forum.
What we can do is ridicule posts a person makes. Sometimes this seems justified, other times it doesn't. But it can't ever really be a personal attack as we don't know each other.
You must understand that a lot of what you post is disagreed with by most of the posters here. Sometimes we argue the point, other times we mock it. As you do to others.
I'm pretty sure you have called other people idiots, stupid and ignorant far more than we have to you.
But it's not personal and shouldn't ever be seen as such.

And SezMe ought to try having more of his own opinion rather than just latching onto an insult of someone by another poster.

I don't generally agree with Open Mind, but he is absolutely correct in his post above.

On this sceptic forum we have several very vocal 'believers' who are allowed to express any opinions they have as stridently as they like (so long as they refrain from personal abuse).

You don't tend to get that in other forums.



For further information on Blackadder and related comedy information please PM me at the usual address.
 
jj said:
Beets! That's Beets, you cabbage!
Did you know that in Peru they have a certain kind of beet where the red color makes it all the way through your system intact? Scared the absolute crap out of us.

~~ Paul
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Did you know that in Peru they have a certain kind of beet where the red color makes it all the way through your system intact? Scared the absolute crap out of us.

~~ Paul

I gather it wasn't an occult color at all?

:)

Seriously, to reply to the thread, people here at JREF, who think the place is pretty rough, never took a look at rec.audio.opinion, or anything like that.

I remember netnews BEFORE it was overrun with morons.
 
by andycal
Is there a quick way of finding out how many threads are started that *don't* end up in Ian bashing?

Easy:

Total threads - threads in which Ian makes an appearance = threads that don't end in Ian bashing.

Correct to two significant figures, I'd imagine.


rossminster, if you feel like getting the impressions in the opening post shattered even more, I would suggest reading the politics forum.
 

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