Could somebody give me evidence that friction causes molten metal?

Good thread, good point, good post.
This is my favorite CT technique. Take something 1/3 of the way up in the thread that's been throughly dismantled, requote it, and agree.

Why ask questions when you are going to ignore the evidence? Do you guys even bother to keep reading? Why do I get the feeling that asking questions is infinitely more important to you than getting answers?
 
Good thread, good point, good post.
Do you have something to contribute to the discussion, or are you here to cheerlead? pdoherty76 claims to have been informed by this discussion. I took that to mean we were reaching some kind of consensus on this subject, or at least agreeing that the subject is more complicated than it might seem at first blush.

Do you think friction can melt metal, Christopheria?
 
right r mackey ur on ignore

i have never worked with metal or studied it

my degree has no relevance here

;) But surely you learned about states of matter.

Hey, at least you learned something. But feel free to run away.
 
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Regarding the OP...

I don't mean to sound, well, skeptical, but does it seem logical that someone with a master's degree in Mathematical Physics would have to ask if friction could melt metal?

I mean, everybody makes dumb mistakes once in a while, but c'mon now.
Aw, sorry to say you made one there, R. Mackey. He's a Mathematical Psychic. Numerology, that kind of thing.

While it's conceivable that someone with a Master's Degree in "Mathematical Physics" might say these things in this way...

im too grown up for this rubbish

if this site is for critical thinkers then surely thoughts will suffice not reams of evidence. There is such thing as original thought which by definition has no evidence to back it up

the word opinion exists for a reason u know. maybe we should just scrap the word opinion and use fact universally

there is suckh thing as circumstantial evidence which is ad missible in court

I dont think i shall stay very long at this site. It is not a debating site or a critical thinking site, it is a site where you are not allowed to have an opinion. Any thing you say must be referenced to a source. Its ridiculous

ok gravy i will admit i am not into this critical thinking and it isnt the place for me.

its physically impossible for me to debate 20 people, although i would destroy each of u one by one

now i know why i was dared to come here. this is your little ambush site

nope ive decided to be a coward and run away

time for me to leave i think.

i shall be addressing no one, i am unsubscribing from the site.

...It is absolutely inconceivable that someone with a degree in "Mathematical Physics" would say this in any way:

this forum just amazes my because i have never been exposed to this "show me the proof" tactic before.
 
...It is absolutely inconceivable that someone with a degree in "Mathematical Physics" would say this in any way:

Mail order degree. From WalMart.
 
I'd be willing to place a sizeable bet that Pd'oh has no degree whatsoever. That he's not even out of high school yet.

I do have a degree. The language mistakes he makes alone are evidence to me that he has not completed the one major thing you must complete to earn a Master's degree. And I'm also willing to bet he can't tell us what that thing would be, nor how he completed it.

I predict imminent and immediate obfuscation.
 
Aw, sorry to say you made one there, R. Mackey. He's a Mathematical Psychic. Numerology, that kind of thing.

While it's conceivable that someone with a Master's Degree in "Mathematical Physics" might say these things in this way...

im too grown up for this rubbish

if this site is for critical thinkers then surely thoughts will suffice not reams of evidence. There is such thing as original thought which by definition has no evidence to back it up

I must have missed this the first time around. Is this guy for real????

Does he even understand what critical thinking is???

Really?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
 
could any of you clowns produce evidence that i dont have a degree? i mean i have offered plenty of evidence that i do including the institution, my tutor, my year of graduation etc

but hey if ur idea of critical thinking debates is to question the education of someone you dont know and who admits himself that the degree has no relevence then go ahead.

Ill just put u on ignore. if you would like a real debate then grow up
 
I must have missed this the first time around. Is this guy for real????

Does he even understand what critical thinking is???

Really?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!

i have already admitted this is the first time i have encoutered a critical thinking forum and i have also admitted that it is not what i am used to

so what?
 
gravy for a man so in love with evidence ur throwing round some unfounded accusations.

I will bet you a thousand pounds that i have exactly the degree i claim.

Will you take the bet?
 
Energy of friction
According to the law of conservation of energy, no energy is lost due to friction. Energy is transformed from other forms into heat. A sliding hockey puck comes to rest due to friction as its kinetic energy changes into heat. Since heat quickly dissipates, many early philosophers, including Aristotle, wrongly concluded that moving objects lose energy without a driving force.

When an object is pushed along a surface, the energy converted to heat is given by:


where
N is the magnitude of the normal force,
μk is the coefficient of kinetic friction,
d is the distance travelled by the object while in contact with the surface.
Physical deformation is associated with friction. While this can be beneficial, as in polishing, it is often a problem, as the materials are worn away, and may no longer hold the specified tolerances.

The work done by friction can translate into deformation and heat that in the long run may affect the surface's specification and the coefficient of friction itself. Friction can in some cases cause solid materials to melt.
source

http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Tribology/co_of_frict.htm#coef
 
Re-entry into the atmosphere at the wrong angle, I believe will cause enough friction to make a molten goop of any satellite or spaceship that has the misfortune...am I not correct.

TAM

Yup - I was going to mention the Columbia accident.
 
could any of you clowns produce evidence that i dont have a degree? i mean i have offered plenty of evidence that i do including the institution, my tutor, my year of graduation etc

but hey if ur idea of critical thinking debates is to question the education of someone you dont know and who admits himself that the degree has no relevence then go ahead.

Frankly, I don't know if you have a degree or not and it really is not all that important to me.

But the fact that you can't see how friction melts metals displays a complete lack of undertsnading of basic physics.

Ever hear of the First Law of Thermodynamics? The work term represents the friction, I'll let you figure out how the equation balances. Perhaps in your 4+ years of education in physics your university somehow managed to miss covering the First Law of Thermo. If so, I strongly suggest you sue to get your tuition back.

Lurker
 
talking of time wasting you asked me a question about alex jones in the double think post, i have answered but i get the feeling u will never reply

by the way, i am lazy, ill give u a minute to think of how that makes me anti semitic or a terrorist supporter

No, it just makes you too lazy to do your own research - so stay ignorant.
You are apparently too lazy to even bother framing your question correctly - and then want to annoy/complain when someone correctly answers the question as you wrote it. Remember - we (well many of us) are actually skeptics - we do not claim to be mind readers. GIGO.
 

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