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Corbyn's days (very) numbered?

Archie Gemmill Goal said:
If the Labour Party wants to appoint an electable leader it will have to break tradition and choose a Tory MP to be the leader.
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They did that with Blair - and it worked. Well, it worked for New Labour anyway.

I think Labour, Tories and Lib Dems all have a similar problem - they became middle-class parties in a middle-class society, and the middle-class has been hollowed out. Hierarchies have been flattened and a scythe taken to middle-management since that became the MBA mantra in the 80's.

A thorough re-engineering of the British party system is required. Wake me up when it's done ...
 
jimbob said:
Yes, Trident for example. There is no point in saying that you will remove Trident if you get into power, if that statement on its own would be sufficient to prevent you form winning a general election.
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Nah. Just keep saying it costs £350m a week, that'll get people on-side. :cool:
 
ceptimus said:
Corbyn was elected with an overwhelming mandate by Labour Party Members. The problem with the Labour party MPs is that they are mostly Tory-Lite and out of step with their members. Worse than that, they're out of step with their voters.
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Are they? I find Corbyn to be the most bourgeois leader Labour have had in several decades. Fine if you want to win in Islington or Hampstead, not so much in Barnsley or Wrexham.
 
These people are just so damned anonymous anyway. Where have they been? Why haven't they........you know............opposed?
 
Now Chris Bryant, Shadow Leader of the Commons has gone too. 11 resigned, one sacked, and still Corbyn doesn't get it. Sleep well, Jeremy.
 
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if the leader of the Labour party cannot unite the PLP behind him then he's no damn use. And if there is any truth he deliberately dialed back on the Brexit campaign then he needs to go now. Here and in the US we seem to be going through a phase of people voting against the 'establishment' without any concern for the consequences. Corbyn, Brexit, Sanders, and Trump, all the beneficiaries of low information voiters who think because the system is imperfect it should be smashed to pieces, with no clear idea of what comes after.
 
The disloyal members of the shadow cabinet, along with other Blairite Labour MPs have been planning this coup for months.

The referendum with a likely-sooner-than-expected General Election to follow has given them the impetus to act now.

The Chilcot report is also due to be published July 6th...
 
ceptimus said:
The disloya realistic l members of the shadow cabinet, along with other Blairite Labour MPs have been planning this coup for months.

The referendum with a likely-sooner-than-expected General Election to follow has given them the impetus to act now.

The Chilcot report is also due to be published July 6th...
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FTFY. Corbyn would lead Labour to oblivion.
 
Whereas any of the challengers to Corbyn in the last leadership contest would have led Labour to a sure-fire victory? Yeah. Right.
 
MikeG said:
Now Chris Briant, Shadow Leader of the Commons has gone too. 11 resigned, one sacked, and still Corbyn doesn't get it. Sleep well, Jeremy.
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According to Radio4 on my drive home from work this evening there are ~20 more likely to resign tomorrow.
 
ceptimus said:
Whereas any of the challengers to Corbyn in the last leadership contest would have led Labour to a sure-fire victory? Yeah. Right.
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Cometh the hour cometh the man. If there are any inspiring potential Labour leaders out there, now is the time to step up.

What are the odds on a re-emergence of David Miliband?
 
lionking said:
Do you disagree that Corbyn will lead labour to a massive defeat?
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I think he probably will. I don't see any other prospective Labour leader doing much better. At least Corbyn has been chosen by the Labour party's agreed democratic process.

It's all moot anyway: if Corbyn wishes to remain as leader then he has enough supporters in the party that he will most likely be re-elected with another big mandate.
 
ceptimus said:
if Corbyn wishes to remain as leader then he has enough supporters in the party that he will most likely be re-elected with another big mandate.
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If that happens I wouldn't be surprised to see Labour split and a new political party formed.
 
I wondered if the more appealing Miliband brother, David, would be wheeled in to contest (and win as no one would stand against him) the vacant seat left by the murdered Jo Cox.

If that happens, then he probably is more appealing to the public than any other likely candidate - but he still needs to be elected as leader by the members - and he is another Tory-Lite Blairite so it would need the members to hold their noses while voting for him.
 
Ambrosia said:
If that happens I wouldn't be surprised to see Labour split and a new political party formed.
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Quite possible. A leader simply can't have his shadow cabinet resign in this manner.

The political landscape in the UK is shaping up to be an almighty mess. The UKIP must be laughing their heads off.
 
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