Francesca R
Girl
OK let's get it over with and split the party into a moderate one that can take Tory votes (rather than give them more), and a band of loons.
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Corbyn's days (very) numbered?
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angrysoba
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Crown, perhaps?
Though more like a paper hat at the moment.
Could be using 'throne' as a colloquialism.
That works too, but actually I was referencing the book 1066 And All That.
Corbyn makes Foot look like a genius born leader. Foot, for all of the idiocy of his policies, was a brilliant orator. Corbyn seems barely able to read the autocue, let alone speak off the cuff.
Indeed
According to people who have followed this, Corbyn used to deny the Balkan genocides, but has tried to delete his more articles in the Morning Star where he was quite explicit about this. (I'll repeat - Morning Star, FFS)
Corbyn had an expensive education at an A-level crammer and still managed to get two E-grades.
If your political opponents are having a bit of a bad time, do you pile the pressure on them, or do you decide to raise a completely different subject that you have no influence over, and where your stance is unpopular with most of the voting public (including in your own party)? If you are Corbyn, you decide to say that you want power sharing between Britain and Argentina over the Falkland Islands.
Scoring an own goal doesn't even come close.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
It says something that the Corbyn defenders here seem to be of the "Well,he's no worse then the others" .
If that is the best Labor has to offer in terms of leadership,then the COnservatives have nothing to worry about.
I wonder is some people here think that Party Leadership is not important in politics. Boy, are they wrong.
If that is the best Labor has to offer in terms of leadership,then the COnservatives have nothing to worry about.
I wonder is some people here think that Party Leadership is not important in politics. Boy, are they wrong.
That's Corbyn's other huge drawback, he has a myriad of those embarrassing bits of political history that the Tories will gleefully trot out.
He's dim, he's been consistently wrong. He demonstrates amazing judgement and timing - as soon as the Tories slip up he decides to raise the subject of one of his many unpopular ideas. Here is one Early Day motion that he (and the usual suspects signed disputing the Albanian genocide during the Kosovo conflict , there apparently was more explicit writing that has been missed)
After his lacklusture performance in the Brexit referendum and claims (with email evidence) that his office sabotaged Labour's campaign, his supporters was that he had worked flat out - so presumably the defence is incompetence.
Today, a Corbyn-backed report into antisemitism in the Labour party came out, and Corbyn stated that British Jews are no more responsible for the actions of Israel than British Muslims are for those of ISIS. That is a pretty unfortunate dogwhistle giving implicit equivalence of ISIS and Israel.
So yes you are right.
The Falklands one was from this January. One thing, you don't need to wait very long for him to produce another if you CBA to look for something in the past.
As I said before he seems like a student politician who never grew up. At university there was a group who seemed to score points off each other by being more right on than the rest. They could always outflank the rest by going to the left.
Corbyn's spent his time in that, and hasn't realised that for example praising the IRA in the 1980s isn't going to win many votes.
To say nothing of choosing Seamus Milne as a key advisor. He has a series of embarrassing columns.
He apparently went beyond simply praising the IRA:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...w-reports-of-close-links-to-ira-a6689681.html
And he's put his foot in it again today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ch-labour-leadership-bid-in-battle-for-the-s/
Did you see what he did today when a CT "it's the jooz" nutter disrupted the launch of Rita Chakrabhati's report into antisemitism in the Labour party by haranguing a female Jewish Labour MP present at the meeting? Yep, absolutely nothing at all. He (Corbyn) just stood by and let it happen. In fact, later on, he could be seen chatting to the nutter with a friendly hand on his shoulder. Weak, weak, weak. In fact, he's so weak, he can't even resign.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
Sheesh, is in some kind of contest with Trump as to which can screw up the most ?
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
It's that kind of intellectual environment which Corbyn has never left; the embattled torch-bearers of Labour's socialist roots against the constant encroachment of the liberal bourgeoisie. Yup, been there, observed all that
.Not so left as to indulge in Trotskyite vanguard movements such as the IMG or International Socialists, now the SWP, but with contemptuous disregard for Parliamentary politics or a wider audience than the party.
Corbyn didn't plan for this. He's proud of not planning for this. Corbyn is a man of principle adhering to a new kind of politics like a barnacle to a plank.
The meltdown of the UK's political scene in these last few years is a thing of freakin' wonder.
Emarrassing is your word. Somebody else's might be "principled".
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CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
They have in common that their utterances were made wthout expectation that one day they might be contending for leadership of their nations. Their relationships with their respective political parties are peculiarly uncommon.
Was at the same private prep and grammar schools as Wyld Bird Seed's other guitarist but not in the same year. Neither achieved academic greatness
With the Tories seemingly about to not so much lurch as sprint as fast as possible to the right a centre party could make sense. But if they don't significantly move to the right "Labour right" makes no sense as then it's just coming between two brands of vanilla ice cream made from the same ingredients just with different labels.
Why? We in Australia have two major parties jostling just either side of the centre, but with enough room to differentiate. The good part about this is a change of government, while causing discomfort to some, does not cause major turmoil. Why must there be polar opposites fighting for office?
What differentiates them?
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Like the Liberal Democrats?