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Corbyn did win, what's next?

Rum said:
The more I think about the guy, much as I admire him and what he is trying to do, the more I think he is probably a lightweight thrown into the deep end - a political minnow in a pool of sharks. He has had this role thrust upon him. I'm sorry to say it but I doubt he is up to the rough and tumble and it is only a matter of time before he goes - potentially because of 'health' reasons or some such to keep the people that voted for him on board.
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Rum said:
Well when the field was almost finalised it was felt there wasn't a wide enough spectrum of political positions to choose from, so they identified someone from the far(ish) left. Nobody thought he stood a hope in hell. Foot/shot in.
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It's too late to say he was not a good choice of candidate or that he won by accident etc... He's done well and it's up to him to keep it going. I expect that if anyone's going to do him in it will be his own enraged party who were shocked by their own members when they voted for him.

Anyway, he's been involved in debates in the past. He'll just have to brass it out.
 
lionking said:
Ridiculous. Corbyn's support will give the quacks credibility. How many people do you want to die before the quacks lies are exposed?
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Why? It's not like he appointed him as shadow health secretary, preferring to give that job to someone who has been at the forefront of the campaign against Tory-led attacks on the main (real) NHS hospital in her area.
 
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I take it they haven't kicked off yet. My final thought on this, which I am sure everyone is eager to read, is that his earnestness could count against him. If he is seen as unable to take a joke or to let insults roll off him then he could become a figure of ridicule.

Cameron might say, "the Labour Party are not all singing from the same hymn sheet, and in the leader's case not singing at all. Boom boom!"

Corbyn would need to come back with a witty put-down, but I fear he might say something like, "oh just grow up!" And be laughed at.
 
MikeG said:
Well, that's almost right.....and any comment I have made about his electability are my (entirely mine) predictions. Only predictions, and not knowledge. However, there are clues from history, particularly that you don't win elections in the modern UK from the margins of extreme right or extreme left. So I don't "know" anything about his electability other than that a victory for him would be bucking some extremely well entrenched trends. I predict that he won't.
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This again? I'd say Thatcher was very right-wing, but if we can't agree on that then discussion is pointless. Assuming we can agree, then you seem to have defined "modern" as post-Thatcher. In terms of leaders who actually won an election, this means Major, Blair and Cameron. Rather a small sample from which to reach dogmatic conclusions about the future of UK politics, I'd say.
 
GlennB said:
This again? I'd say Thatcher was very right-wing, but if we can't agree on that then discussion is pointless. Assuming we can agree, then you seem to have defined "modern" as post-Thatcher. In terms of leaders who actually won an election, this means Major, Blair and Cameron. Rather a small sample from which to reach dogmatic conclusions about the future of UK politics, I'd say.
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All of those politicians mentioned are well into the "upper right" quadrant of the PoliticalCompass two dimensional model
 
I predict much braying and cat-calling. Can I have my money now?
 
angrysoba said:
Cameron might say, "the Labour Party are not all singing from the same hymn sheet, and in the leader's case not singing at all. Boom boom!"

Corbyn would need to come back with a witty put-down, but I fear he might say something like, "oh just grow up!" And be laughed at.
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I don't think that sort of response would make him a figure of ridicule in the country, whatever might be the reaction of the Yahoos in parliament. I hope, for example, that he would get immediate praise from the new enlarged SNP contingent, who are still not on terms with some of the idiotic customs of the House, and that sensible voters would sustain and applaud him.

Corbyn has to be like the wee boy in the Emperor's New Clothes, who pricks the bubble of delusion and self-consciousness that has until now inhibited the Yahoos from rejecting with revulsion the absurdities with which they have belittled the legislature to which they were elected by the people's suffrage.
 
As they said on Daily Politics, if he is going to be polite and less adversarial than previously, he runs the risk of not actually holding the PM to account
 
uk_dave said:
As they said on Daily Politics, if he is going to be polite and less adversarial than previously, he runs the risk of not actually holding the PM to account
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Politeness and due gravity are not obstacles to holding politicians to account. To the contrary, I believe.

ETA That is the assumption underlying the procedures in courts of law, even if the wigs are absurd.
 
Craig B said:
I don't think that sort of response would make him a figure of ridicule in the country, whatever might be the reaction of the Yahoos in parliament. I hope, for example, that he would get immediate praise from the new enlarged SNP contingent, who are still not on terms with some of the idiotic customs of the House, and that sensible voters would sustain and applaud him.

Corbyn has to be like the wee boy in the Emperor's New Clothes, who pricks the bubble of delusion and self-consciousness that has until now inhibited the Yahoos from rejecting with revulsion the absurdities with which they have belittled the legislature to which they were elected by the people's suffrage.
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Or he could say to Cameron, "wow! You look even more like a condom up close!"
 
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