WildCat
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And yet people here are claiming he's a Capitalist and not a Marx-style Socialist.
Corbyn did win, what's next?
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angrysoba
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He's defending quackery, certainly. What say you to my earlier proposal?
It's clear that you'd prefer to rely on your wild imaginings that his stated intent. There's no real way to argue against that kind of nonsense.
What an interesting piece of editorialising that Reuters article is. I'd prefer to rely on actual policies and policy proposals.
Which of Jeremy Corbyn's policies have your knickers in such a twist ?
That Corbyn needs a public appeal to change his position is a sad commentary. That others support homeopathy is no consolation.
This and other positions he takes make him unsuitable for high office. Indeed, it makes him unsuitable for opposition leader.
Visiting East Germany forty years ago does not make one "a Marx-style Socialist" today. It may come as a surprise to you but it was quite possible for people in the UK to visit Eastern Bloc countries as tourists. My grandparents went on holiday to the U.S.S.R., Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia, my mother went to Yugoslavia on a number of occasions. They were cheap holidays.
Guybrush Threepwood
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Ha! No need to look any further to find out why you're in the tank for tovarisch Corbyn
WildCat
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Visiting East Germany, coddling up to Hugo Chavez and praising his policies, hiring a spokesman who vows to overthrow Capitalism... clearly he wants a Capitalist economy like Denmark!
But I guess if you ignore his actual words and actions and substitute what you wish he said and did instead then you can conclude he's not a Marx-style Socialist!
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Yes I have. Have you? But please enlighten us with your definition of "natural growth of the money supply" (should be entertaining).
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I have actually studied the Weimar and Zimbabwean hyperinflation cases. There's hardly any resemblance to that which is proposed in "PQE".
Do you realize that around 45 percent of U.S. public debt is held by domestic governmental agencies (including the Fed who holds a considerable share of that)?
Governments all around the world issue bonds and invest the proceeds in infrastructure all the time, everywhere, almost every day. Whether the buyer of the bond is the central bank or a private bank or Aunt Margaret is irrelevant in terms of UK inflation. Also, Aunt Margaret can sell her bond to a bank and the bank can sell it to BoE anyway (that would actually be QE proper).
Btw., "PQE" is not about "printing your way to prosperity".
I don't think that ive ever heard of anything comparably romantic.
Show me the policies that he has proposed that are so virulently anti-capitalist and then maybe we can have a debate.
Regarding the "overthrow capitalism" bit, that's part of hos Who's Who entry where joking and exaggeration are par for the course. The exact quote was:
.....apparently he's a keen home-brewer so it may have been a bit of a joke whilst acknowledging his left wing views. I guess we'll be able to tell over the coming weeks and months whether he is actually planning to overthrow the entire capitalist system.
You're the one who's alleging that he's a Marxist when his policies look rather more like Democratic Socialist policies such as you'd find in Scandinavia.
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To be fair, probably better than what the right wingers do which is hiring a spokesman who taps phones*
*Just joining is with the massive stereotyping along left/right lines based on a single historical case as it appear to be de rigueur for this thread.
No. People are saying there are other things than being on the one hand a Marx style socialist, and on the other a capitalist. He's neither. He's an obvious proponent of a social democratic mixed economy. Nothing he has proposed is not to be found in one modern democracy or another.
Not fans of boycotting unsavoury regimes then? (Unlike Corbyn, who would boycott horrible regimes. Like that capitalist democracy in the Middle East. You know, the only one).
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Right Glenn, I based it entirely on that trip and not at all on what he says or who he hires or who he sings the praises of.
When banks lend money.
Was that entertaining?
Then what's it about? Borrowing amounts that can't possibly ever be paid back like Greece did?
Do tell where all this money he wants to spend will come from!
People I know well went on holiday in Spain during the Franco regime, or in Portugal under Salazar. Didn't make them fascists.
The capitalist democracy is fine. The illegal settlement of usurped and illegally annexed land is not. You can be both, you know.
ETA This is fine.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
But if somebody boycotted the author of these words because he owned four hundred slaves, I would approve of that.
You can be both, you know.
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Why don't you put something specific in your posts?