I simply make a base of it i.e. if you are not A&F then do not expect it from others. Do regard everyone as you do to youselves. Do wish similar for others as you do wish to yourselves.
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I simply make a base of it i.e. if you are not A&F then do not expect it from others. Do regard everyone as you do to youselves. Do wish similar for others as you do wish to yourselves.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
We don't expect you to be "A&F". We expect you to provide evidence to support your ideas, and not to ignore the evidence contradicting them. You persistently fail to do either of these, using "science is not yet A&F" as an excuse for ignoring it. This is clearly not consistent with your claimed principles.
How non-A&F evidances are valid?
Daylightstar
Philosopher
You have not offered any explanation for logic or science. None whatsoever.
What you have attempted to do is force your unsupported and unsupportable
ideas onto others.
Including your religion which' principles you do not even adhere to.
Mashuna
Ovis ex Machina
Because it's not a binary proposition.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Science effectively puts up it's middle finger to your religious fanaticism.
Science accomplishes things. You don't.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
How your ideas are valid?
After all your pushing your religion and poorly constructed ideas for several years, you still can not say.....
No facts, no logic, no evidence, just your religion based rejection of science and pushing your religious principles onto others.
It's been nothing but that. Your most recent responses show this clearly.
pakeha
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You mean, like your assertion fried chapatis disagree with you?
Try to understand logic behind it not religion. Few snips:-
Many aspects of aquiring/getting knowledge:-
"The knowledge through the medium of the five senses.
The knowledge which is based on the interpretation of signs, the understanding of speech, words, writings, gestures, etc.
Clairvoyance, the transcendental knowledge of corporeal things, occurring without the medium of organs.
Extrasensory perception, the transcendental knowledge of the thoughts of others, occurring without the medium of organs.
Unlimited, absolute, direct Omniscience, perfect and highest form of knowledge and perception."
While other types of knowledge are prone to error on account of delusion, only last one is perfect and free from all errors.There is a direct relationship between Supreme Non-attachment and Omniscience."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevala_Jnana
Many aspects of aquiring/getting knowledge:-
"The knowledge through the medium of the five senses.
The knowledge which is based on the interpretation of signs, the understanding of speech, words, writings, gestures, etc.
Clairvoyance, the transcendental knowledge of corporeal things, occurring without the medium of organs.
Extrasensory perception, the transcendental knowledge of the thoughts of others, occurring without the medium of organs.
Unlimited, absolute, direct Omniscience, perfect and highest form of knowledge and perception."
While other types of knowledge are prone to error on account of delusion, only last one is perfect and free from all errors.There is a direct relationship between Supreme Non-attachment and Omniscience."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevala_Jnana
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Mojo
Mostly harmless
Kumar, we will never achieve omniscience. The important thing, the thing that makes science so successful, is that science is prepared to admit this and to correct mistakes.
Mashuna
Ovis ex Machina
Daylightstar
Philosopher
And like this:
Hilite by daylightstar
Still pushing religion. In spite of the hilited remark by you.
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Daylightstar
Philosopher
We wish science for ourselves, we wish that for you as well.
But you reject it based on your religion, which you try to push on others.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Another response to this specifically:
No Kumar, it is not logic and science which need explaining, it is the science which explains.
No science can explain or support your unsupportable ideas, just like you demonstrate time and again that you can't.
Daylightstar
Philosopher
Kumar please stop pushing your religion onto others. Your religion has not helped you in gaining understanding or learn anything valid. You reject science as TTTT on the basis of your religion, your religion is your mechanism for your refusal to learn anything.
You receive no light in your religion.
You are surrounded by impenetrable darkness.
From darkness have you come
and through darkness you return
to from where you came
You receive no light in your religion.
You are surrounded by impenetrable darkness.
From darkness have you come
and through darkness you return
to from where you came
Convention & popularity esp. when major attention and public funds are directed toward any one thing, can also make a thing successful. Previously other systems were also successful.
Whatever your persception suggest but we can base on what we can get from any form--religion, logic, science, traditional systems etc.
dafydd
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Do you really think that anybody would be so stupid as to try and eat a mango seed? None of your posts make any sense, can you please try and find somebody who can post in English for you.
Mojo
Mostly harmless
They can make something successful in financial or political terms; they cannot make it work if it doesn't.