Controlled demolition vs. the towers collapsing

Anders Lindman said:
My guess is that in the South Tower, floor 81 was rigged with tons of Thermite and floor 83 rigged with tons of kerosene.
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And on which of the 7,000 video segments (70 hours of video) taken by 180 people does this show up on?



Anders Lindman said:
I'm too lazy to do much research myself.
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You are a no-planer. By this, you have demonstrated the inability to judge evidence and logic.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Actually I have heard of a factor of 3 or something like that being mentioned for the WTC towers. :o But I don't know the exact figure so I threw in 5 for good measure.
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So, just to be clear, you essentially just guessed a figure in support of your argument?
 
BigAl said:
And on which of the 7,000 video segments (70 hours of video) taken by 180 people does this show up on?
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The kerosene (together with explosives) created the fireball explosion for the 'plane impact'. And the effect of the Thermite can be seen in the video(s) showing molten metal pouring out of the South Tower at the bottom of floor 81.
 
Anders Lindman said:
The kerosene (together with explosives) created the fireball explosion for the 'plane impact'. And the effect of the Thermite can be seen in the video(s) showing molten metal pouring out of the South Tower at the bottom of floor 81.
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Thermite was not used at WTC. End of discussion.
 
Architect said:
So, just to be clear, you essentially just guessed a figure in support of your argument?
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No, I knew that the strength was larger than was needed to disprove the statement "the steel lost most of its strength" (lost over 50% of its strength).
 
No.
Only the kerosene (with no explosives) created the fireball explosion for the plane impact.
 
Anders Lindman said:
The kerosene (together with explosives) created the fireball explosion for the 'plane impact'. And the effect of the Thermite can be seen in the video(s) showing molten metal pouring out of the South Tower at the bottom of floor 81.
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You have a delusion. No explosives were used on 911. No thermite. No evidence. You come evidence free spewing nonsense debunked on 911.
Have you been here before?
 
sabretooth47 said:
Thermite was not used at WTC. End of discussion.
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But was what is described below really batteries? Looks very suspicious to me. I'm not sure the source for this information can be trusted but it fits eerily well with what I speculated about before I found this.

Floor 81: "Fuji Bank had torn up the 81st floor, he said, and stripped it down to the bare bone to reinforce the trusses so that the floor could hold more weight. ... "The whole floor was batteries," he said, "huge battery-looking things." They were "all black" and "solid, very heavy" things that had been brought in during the night. They had been put in place during the summer prior to 9/11, he said. ... "Nobody worked on that floor," the source said about Floor 81. The whole floor was taken up with a "whole bunch of batteries" and "enclosed server racks" that were so tall that one could not see over the top of them. The enclosed server racks were locked and the only people who could open them were employees of the Shimizu Corp., he said." -- From: http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-Fuji-WTC.html
 
beachnut said:
You have a delusion. No explosives were used on 911. No thermite. No evidence. You come evidence free spewing nonsense debunked on 911.
Have you been here before?
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Today I have found that two floors at the South Tower impact zone were most likely free from people that day, which fits with my theory. No solid evidence, but it's at least consistent with what I have suggested.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But was what is described below really batteries? Looks very suspicious to me. I'm not sure the source for this information can be trusted but it fits eerily well with what I speculated about before I found this.

Floor 81: "Fuji Bank had torn up the 81st floor, he said, and stripped it down to the bare bone to reinforce the trusses so that the floor could hold more weight. ... "The whole floor was batteries," he said, "huge battery-looking things." They were "all black" and "solid, very heavy" things that had been brought in during the night. They had been put in place during the summer prior to 9/11, he said. ... "Nobody worked on that floor," the source said about Floor 81. The whole floor was taken up with a "whole bunch of batteries" and "enclosed server racks" that were so tall that one could not see over the top of them. The enclosed server racks were locked and the only people who could open them were employees of the Shimizu Corp., he said." -- From: http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-Fuji-WTC.html
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Nobody put tons of anything in a corporate server room without lots of people knowing about it.

"nobody works there " doesn't mean that people are not in and out of the room 24x7 and that the room isn't under constant monitoring.

Anders Lindman said:
I'm too lazy to do much research myself.
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You are a no-planer. By this, you have demonstrated the inability to judge evidence and logic.
 
BigAl said:
Nobody put tons of anything in a corporate server room without lots of people knowing about it.

"nobody works there " doesn't mean that people are not in and out of the room 24x7 and that the room isn't under constant monitoring.
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No solid proof I agree. But you have to admit that it looks somewhat suspicious. A bank office in Manhattan with a floor filled with 'battery-looking things'? For what? UPS backup for their laptops? :rolleyes:
 
Anders Lindman said:
No solid proof I agree. But you have to admit that it looks somewhat suspicious. A bank office in Manhattan with a floor filled with 'battery-looking things'? For what? UPS backup for their laptops? :rolleyes:
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Yes. I ran floors full of "battery-looking things" and the computers they ran for big NYC banks.

You reveal greater ignorance and gullibility here with each post.
 
Anders Lindman said:
No solid proof I agree. But you have to admit that it looks somewhat suspicious. A bank office in Manhattan with a floor filled with 'battery-looking things'? For what? UPS backup for their laptops? :rolleyes:
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Boxes filled with jet fuel and thermite... now that's plausible :rolleyes:
 
Anders Lindman said:
No, I knew that the strength was larger than was needed to disprove the statement "the steel lost most of its strength" (lost over 50% of its strength).
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Okay, what do you know about safety factors in the design of large-scale structures?

Hint: I'm going to be questioning you closely on this. You've made a very bold - and wrong - assumption and I want to test how much you really understand the issues you're so confident about.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Not jet fuel likely. ;) But some form of Thermite, that's definitely possible.
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Not the least bit.

You can't just leave thermite sitting in the middle of the floor and expect it to do significant damage. It would have to be in contact with the supporting structures.

Just didn't happen. You are becoming less rational with every post you make.
 
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