Continued: (Ed) Atheism Plus/Free Thought Blogs (FTB)

I was betting that they would have a thread on the issue. It seems right up their alley, but I don't see one.
 
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Stacko said:
I think most of the discussion there happens in the secret forum now.

ETA: They're attempting to start a blog that should provide some more entertainment if it gets off the ground and that's a big IF given that crowd.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5875
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Looks like right now they are more concerned with the artwork style of their avatars and banner. Perhaps in a month or two they'll write something, if the whole thing hasn't collapsed from arguing about color schemes.
 
Here's a particularly awful Gawker article attacking Jerry Seinfeld for not having race and gender quotas regarding who he has on his web series:

http://gawker.com/who-cares-about-diversity-in-comedy-says-jerry-seinf-1515412052

Jerry Seinfeld, the most successful comedian in the world and maker of comedy for and about white people, isn't interested in trying to include non-white anything in his work.

When asked why he featured so many white men in his web series Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee during a Buzzfeed interview on CBS This Morning, Seinfeld seemed offended by the very question. "It really pisses me off," he said. "People think [comedy] is the census or something, it's gotta represent the actual pie chart of America. Who cares?"

BuzzFeed Business Editor Peter Lauria seemed hesitant to pursue the frank answer, but the comedian continued on anyway. "Funny is the world that I live in. You're funny, I'm interested. You're not funny, I'm not interested," he said. "I have no interest in gender or race or anything like that." He seems to suggest that any comedian who is not a white male is also not funny, though he's also likely fed up with the amount of bad comedy he's been forced to sit through in his (waning) career.

Which is too bad, because Seinfeld is downplaying the work of everyone from Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby to Aziz Ansari, Mindy Kaling, and Eddie Huang, who are all in various stages of their own sitcoms that just might turn out to be the next Seinfeld.

Here are the few episodes of Comedians in Cars with people who are not white men (which definitely does not include the Super Bowl Seinfeld reunion):

Tina Fey
Chris Rock
Sarah Silverman
Mario Joyner (with Colin Quinn, but hey)

In conclusion: Yes, comedy should represent the entire pie chart of America, and the glorious, multicolored diversity pie should be thrown directly at Jerry Seinfeld's face.
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It's not FTB or A+, but it seems to be coming from the same sort of mentality.
 
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He seems to suggest that any comedian who is not a white male is also not funny
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No, he doesn't. He seems to suggest that his only criteria is whether he finds the comedians funny. That's it.
 
Dissolution said:
No, he [Seinfeld] doesn't [suggest that any comedian who is not a white male is also not funny]. He seems to suggest that his only criteria is whether he finds the comedians funny. That's it.
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They do seem to love going after the straw men they make. Of this they are consistent.
 
A blog seems far more their speed. They can disable comments and just post things. No dissent possible, no need to ban anybody.
 
cornsail said:
Here's a particularly awful Gawker article attacking Jerry Seinfeld for not having race and gender quotas regarding who he has on his web series:

http://gawker.com/who-cares-about-diversity-in-comedy-says-jerry-seinf-1515412052



It's not FTB or A+, but it seems to be coming from the same sort of mentality.
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Gee, a very white Jewish comedian uses his own experiences to tell funny stories. Sounds like every comedian since the dawn of time, but I know, in lieu of actual news, I can create a fake firestorm of controversy. Jerry Seinfeld hates everyone else because he's white, and he only talks about white people! Now I get a byline even though this isn't news, and I'm just a hack! Yay for false outrage and non-existent issues!
 
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Gee, a very white Jewish comedian uses his own experiences to tell funny stories. Sounds like every comedian since the dawn of time, but I know, in lieu of actual news, I can create a fake firestorm of controversy. Jerry Seinfeld hates everyone else because he's white, and he only talks about white people! Now I get a byline even though this isn't news, and I'm just a hack! Yay for false outrage and non-existent issues!
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But just think if he had gone the route of ultra-diversity. I can well imagine the SJWs frothing at the mouth over "cultural appropriation". He's white, he's male, he's wealthy. Ergo, he's destined to lose in their eyes no matter what he does.
 
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Sooo... I've seen a decent amount of chatter and argumentation about the DDoS attack on FtB and Skepchick last weekend. Some people argue that it was a deliberate attempt to intimidate atheist feminists, others that it was a random coincidence. Any well-informed opinions or thoughts?

In case you've no idea what I'm talking about: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/fe...dly-sites-go-down-during-weekend-ddos-attacks
 
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Sooo... I've seen a decent amount of chatter and argumentation about the DDoS attack on FtB and Skepchick last weekend. Some people argue that it was a deliberate attempt to intimidate atheist feminists, others that it was a random coincidence. Any well-informed opinions or thoughts?

In case you've no idea what I'm talking about: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/fe...dly-sites-go-down-during-weekend-ddos-attacks
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Looks like it wasn't just them and unless they come up with direct proof that they were the targets, I will reserve judgment on this.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/372033,worlds-largest-ddos-strikes-us-europe.aspx

I think they are seeing what they want to see, but I could be wrong.
 
It seems that they were collateral damage, rather than the focus of any attack.
It's all about them, though...
 
Reading the first article about the DDoS attacks is absolutely hilarious after reading the second. All those conspiracy theories (and, apparently, more than one person inside Anonymous), and nobody considered the possibility that maybe they weren't the targets after all.

I suppose the question is - after this new information has been published, have PZ, Rebecca Watson, Anita Saarkesian, etc. made further comment?
 
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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Reading the first article about the DDoS attacks is absolutely hilarious after reading the second. All those conspiracy theories (and, apparently, more than one person inside Anonymous), and nobody considered the possibility that maybe they weren't the targets after all.

I suppose the question is - after this new information has been published, have PZ, Rebecca Watson, Anita Saarkesian, etc. made further comment?
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Well, you know it is always about them, how could it be about anyone else. The song "You're so vain" always pops into my head when I think about them.

It is possible there was more than one DDoS attack on that day and/or that they were direct targets, it just seems unlikely.

I would not expect further comment, because they can't be wrong about things.
 
having rubbed elbows with a few "h4x0Rz" in my time, Id imagine they wouldve said "hey! femos! hit them for t3h lulZ!".

Thatd have been about the depth of the "targeting".
 
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