Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[DGM]

Dick Gregory Joins Forces with AE911Truth to expose the controlled demolition on 9/11 of the World Trade Center

http://911truthnews.com/dick-gregory-joins-forces-with-ae911truth/

Wait.......Did I miss something? Is he an Engineer?

 

[TexasJack]

Let's see, Dick Gregory believes in the moon hoax, Katrina hoax, he thinks the DC sniper was a white man, and gets his information from "ghetto intelligence." Yep, he's a perfect representative for Gage.

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

The FBI assigned 7,000 of its 11,000 agents to the investigation into 9/11 along with 2,000 support personnel.

Yes there were a lot of people. Results?
No evidence which allowed the Department of Justice to indict OBL.

Wait, so OBL has been indicted?

Of course, the press has no power to truly indict. I meant that sarcastically. OBL has not been been indicted. Why not? We went to war to find him.

Indictments typically do come from prosecutors working for the executive branch.

That is correct. They should indict OBL if they have the evidence. Or take a look at those who had the Motive, Opportunity, and Power to organize 9/11 and the cover up story. Cui bono?

You can't seriously be mad because the appropriate agencies carried out the appropriate functions?

They should carry out their appropriate functions, and investigate ALL the evidence, with a truly scientific, criminal investigation of 9/11.

OBL's multiple confessions.

Which one, the right handed Fatty Bin Laden with the gold ring, or the computer generated OBL?

OBL denied it on Al Jazeera on September 16, 2001.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons."
http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/...-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US

When OBL realized he was blamed, and his followers were impressed, volunteering in droves, he probably went along with it.

Hijackers identification found in wreckage.

Oh yes. The "magic passport" found "by chance" in the rubble that the Twusters believe.

OBL personally identifying the hijackers.

After they were announced to the world on the News.

KSM's claim of responsibility in a pre-capture interview with Al-Jazeera... among others.

A lot of terrorist groups tried to claim responsibility, to impress their followers. KSM has been water boarded so many times, he would confess to killing President Abraham Lincoln.

 

[GlennB]

The idea that molten steel could be "dipped" out by an excavator bucket is laughable.

Exactly. The volume of molten steel would be huge, it would need to be contained somewhere in a pool (where, why?) and there would be vast ugly great ingots of amorphous steel lying around afterwards. And where would the excavator dump the molten steel? In the back of a truck to burn its way through while destroying the hydraulics and electrics?

Such an event would live in the memories of hundreds forever. And would have wrecked the machines themselves.

Total joke.

 

[A W Smith]

The FBI should question those who:

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* had the power to carry it out: equipment, black ops teams, money, technology

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* had the power to cover it up: creating a plausible cover story, set up group of patsy's, control over mass media

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* resisted an investigation

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* controlled the investigation

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* refused to testify under oath

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* refused to testify in public

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* refused to testify alone

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* benefited from 9/11 - cui bono

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* changed their story about 9/11

FBI does not have enough cause to investigate who

* lied about other things in their lives

Even if the Commission was just asked to analyze policies, Senator Max Cleland quit. How much more unfair would it be as a criminal investigation.

We didn't get a real criminal investigation,

Because the FBI does not have enough cause to investigate

and we need one.

No "we" dont

The FBI has not indicted OBL for 9/11.

Many mass murderers go to prison or are executed without being prosecuted for every murder they confessed to

Only the Bush Administration did and mass media got on the band wagon.

They admitted to their crimes during martyrdom videos and statements

The best "evidence" they have are water boarded witnesses who would confess to killing Abraham Lincoln, and a closed military trial to be held in Guantanamo so the press can be controlled. That's not American.

I highlighted your blatant and ignorant lie, there was and still is mountains of evidence compiled during the largest investigation in the history of the FBI. Did you forget the Mousawi trial?

 

[DGM]

They should carry out their appropriate functions, and investigate ALL the evidence, with a truly scientific, criminal investigation of 9/11.

Wait...when did the (FBI) stop investigating? Do you have something you're holding back from them?

 

[walkyrie]

KSM has been water boarded so many times, he would confess to killing President Abraham Lincoln.

Agree , He have been waterboarder many many times by the US government, and therefore he can be forced also to confess anything you want

 

[Java Man]

Nice quotemine job. Did you understand that it is mixed with already explosive materials?

Yea? Which? It was also mixed with explosive materials to make rocket fuel? As far as I know rocket engineers design them to fly not to go boom. Is this a No-Hot-Gas-Through-Nozzles type of rocket booster?

 

[Christopher7]

The idea that molten steel could be "dipped" out by an excavator bucket is laughable.

Exactly. The volume of molten steel would be huge, it would need to be contained somewhere in a pool (where, why?) and there would be vast ugly great ingots of amorphous steel lying around afterwards. And where would the excavator dump the molten steel? In the back of a truck to burn its way through while destroying the hydraulics and electrics?

Put a layer of dirt in the dump truck, put the molten steel/iron on it, douse with water or just allow it to cool.

Such an event would live in the memories of hundreds forever.

Only a small percentage of the people on the pile have been interviewed. You refuse to believe the people who saw molten steel and would continue to do so no matter how many there were.

And would have wrecked the machines themselves.

It probably would ruin the buckets but not the machines.

Total joke.

You are calling Mark Loizeaux a liar, proving only that you will refuse to accept any evidence of molten steel

 

[DGM]

Agree , He have been waterboarder many many times by the US government, and therefore he can be forced also to confess anything you want

Why did he confess before this happened? Wait..........why am I asking you? You only repeat what you're told.

Anyone else?

 

[NoahFence]

C7.

WHAT
DOES
IT
PROVE?

Either I'm on ignore, or you're incapable of answering it. Which tells me you have no idea what it proves.

 

[GlennB]

Put a layer of dirt in the dump truck, put the molten steel/iron on it, douse with water or just allow it to cool.

Which makes it an operation specifically designed to deal with liquid steel 'dipped' from large pools at GZ with excavator buckets.

Did anybody mention such a thing? Ever?? The whole concept remains a joke.

 

[Java Man]

In 1968? Not likely.

But they had this:

http://www.instructables.com/image/FF8XDJ0FG4AQW4R/How-to-use-a-slide-rule.jpg

Which got this:

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/KSC-69PC-442.jpg

Here:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/apollo-11.jpg

 

[Java Man]

If you understood the first thing about such dynamic modelling, you'd know that a full-scale simulation is futile when the initial configuration isn't known very precisely. Hint: chaos-theory.

Re "alleged collapse": Do you doubt that the towers collapsed??

So I guess you think all that money being spent on weather simulations is wrongly spent and a futile venture all in all?

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Put a layer of dirt in the dump truck, put the molten steel/iron on it, douse with water or just allow it to cool.

That dirt had better be extremely dry, and it would be a serious problem if any of that dousing water got under the "molten steel".

Go and google the expansion rate of water trapped under "molten steel". It's a situation you do not want.

I worked as a Safety Manager in a steel foundry for 3 years, if that gives me any credibility.

 

[NoahFence]

That dirt had better be extremely dry, and it would be a serious problem if any of that dousing water got under the "molten steel".

Go and google the expansion rate of water trapped under "molten steel". It's a situation you do not want.

I worked as a Safety Manager in a steel foundry for 3 years, if that gives me any credibility.

I worked across the street from a foundry that had their roof blown off by a poor mixture of good ol H2O and melted steel.

Owwwcchhhhh

Couldn't tell who was black or who was white when they evacuated the place.

 

[DGM]

So I guess you think all that money being spent on weather simulations is wrongly spent and a futile venture all in all?

Wow.......that's a new record for stretch. Congratulations.

 

[NoahFence]

But they had this:

http://www.instructables.com/image/FF8XDJ0FG4AQW4R/How-to-use-a-slide-rule.jpg

Which got this:

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/KSC-69PC-442.jpg

Here:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/apollo-11.jpg

The question was in regards to weather or not a computer was powerful enough to do an exact simulation of the collapses.

Putting a man on the moon has nothing whatsoever to do with that.

Will you EVER get a clue?

 

[Justin39640]

But they had this:

http://www.instructables.com/image/FF8XDJ0FG4AQW4R/How-to-use-a-slide-rule.jpg

Which got this:

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/KSC-69PC-442.jpg

Here:

http://www.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/apollo-11.jpg

In the context of this thread... could you use a slide rule to engineer a model of the Saturn failing catastrophically, destroying itself, the orbiter, etc, etc right up until the last pieces stop smoldering? Probably, but it would take an army of engineers and years upon years, if not decades to get it right. I think you're missing the point about efficiency and the limitations in modeling such a complex and random situation.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

I worked across the street from a foundry that had their roof blown off by a poor mixture of good ol H2O and melted steel.

Owwwcchhhhh

Couldn't tell who was black or who was white when they evacuated the place.

Yep. Our foundry had a fatality and several burn injuries when a furnace tender added a metal "pig" to the heat that had a small void of water in it. It blew all of the metal out of the furnace.

I was hired just after this happened. Took one guy over a year to return to work.