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Look, if I say,

"Wow, like the whole building was on fire." when telling someone about a fire I saw, I am exaggerating for effect. Seriously, do you think they were trying to say that EVERY and ALL 47 floors were on fire? really?

TAM:)
 
jaydeehess said:
By your own standard bill, you are a damned liar. You state there was no discernible inferno and every firefighter on the scene will certainly disagree with that statement, the video of the inferno on several floors disagrees with you and your ignoring of these facts makes you, by your own standard at the very least, a damned liar.
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You are not quoting me though I don't disagree with what the poster says. I have already established that the specific group of firefighters I mentioned are LIARS and I couldn't care less what they say any more. I wiill stick with the video evidence of very little fire a thousand miles short of 'fully involved'. Call me when you have video of the 'Fully involved ' WTC7.
 
bill smith said:
In answer to a question on the subject he said that theoretically speaking there should be a new 9/11 investigation. But that practically speaking they would just fix it and find themselves innocent.

I am not planning to go back and check the time stamp right now either. I can only suggest that people watch the interview for themselves.
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Bill, I DID watch the interview. I watched the whole thing and yes he states that there was culpability born of incompetance by some very highly placed people in the administration and THAT is what he is speaking about when he says that any new investigation would run up against very powerful roadblocks.

NONE of this, not a lick, nada , zip, zilch, zero, nada, supports any 911 conspiracy theory at all. Nothing!!

So once again I ask you, the 911 conspiracy believer who posted the interview as somehow supporting your views: Where in this interview does he do that?
 
T.A.M. said:
Look, if I say,

"Wow, like the whole building was on fire." when telling someone about a fire I saw, I am exaggerating for effect. Seriously, do you think they were trying to say that EVERY and ALL 47 floors were on fire? really?

TAM:)
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What about this then 'WTC7 was fully involved in fire from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors'. Was that not specific enough ?
 
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jaydeehess said:
Bill, I DID watch the interview. I watched the whole thing and yes he states that there was culpability born of incompetance by some very highly placed people in the administration and THAT is what he is speaking about when he says that any new investigation would run up against very powerful roadblocks.

NONE of this, not a lick, nada , zip, zilch, zero, nada, supports any 911 conspiracy theory at all. Nothing!!

So once again I ask you, the 911 conspiracy believer who posted the interview as somehow supporting your views: Where in this interview does he do that?
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Well I am sure you will join me in heartily reccommending the interview to all debunkers and Truth people
 
bill smith said:
What about this then 'WTC7 was fully involved in fire from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors'. Am Was that not specific enough ?
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You made up the floor to ceiling junk. Why do you make up lies?

You called the firemen liars who said, "fully involved". You were wrong, you need to apologize!

by definition WTC7 was fully involved; need to look things up before you make up delusions and call people liars.
 
bill smith said:
You are not quoting me though I don't disagree with what the poster says.
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Oops my bad, that was RedI
I have already established that the specific group of firefighters I mentioned are LIARS and I couldn't care less what they say any more. I wiill stick with the video evidence of very little fire a thousand miles short of 'fully involved'. Call me when you have video of the 'Fully involved ' WTC7.
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However, now that you have agreed with RedI's statement you now also own it and my previous post is proved correct after that fact. You indeed have now called the entire contingent of NYFD at the WTC 7 site all damned liars, NOT just those who exaggerated or were mistaken, in the emotion of the day.
 
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jaydeehess said:
Oops my bad, that was RedI

However, now that you have agreed with RedI's statement you now also own it and my previous post is proved correct after that fact. You indeed have now called the entire contingent of NYFD at the WTC 7 site all damned liars, NOT just those who exaggerated or were mistaken, in the emotion of the day.
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Knock yourself out with this idiotic approach JD. I left kindergarten many years ago.
 
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Corrected free of charge.
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she admits being a k dropout? That may explain the lack of knowledge.

WTC 7 was fully involved, the firemen were right, and she calls them liars. 9 years of failure have not stopped bill from increasing the stupid statements.
 
jaydeehess said:
By your own standard bill, you are a damned liar. You state there was no discernible inferno and every firefighter on the scene will certainly disagree with that statement, the video of the inferno on several floors disagrees with you and your ignoring of these facts makes you, by your own standard at the very least, a damned liar.
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The second quote is from Red Ibis, not BS.
 
bill smith said:
You are not quoting me though I don't disagree with what the poster says. I have already established that the specific group of firefighters I mentioned are LIARS and I couldn't care less what they say any more. I wiill stick with the video evidence of very little fire a thousand miles short of 'fully involved'. Call me when you have video of the 'Fully involved ' WTC7.
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Any video of 7WTC will do. Considering a fully involved fire does not mean what you think it means.

BTW, many of those that were in McQueens "scientific" study, are the same firefighters that mention 7 being fully involved.

Care to reconcile this discrepency? I predict you won't.
 
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Any video of 7WTC will do. Considering a fully involved fire does not mean what you think it means.

BTW, many of those that were in McQueens "scientific" study, are the same firefighters that mention 7 being fully involved.

Care to reconcile this discrepency? I predict you won't.
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Well I would LOVE to have that list so that I can put what they said in both instances side-by-side and see if I see anything interesting..

Can I have the list you are talking about please ?
 
It's sad to see bill smith having to openly and explicitly call firefighters liars, in order to continue to get the kind of indignant emotional reaction he used to get so easily by saying hardly anything at all.

It's like seeing a talented artist sell his paint brushes to buy a few meals.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Myriad said:
It's sad to see bill smith having to openly and explicitly call firefighters liars, in order to continue to get the kind of indignant emotional reaction he used to get so easily by saying hardly anything at all.

It's like seeing a talented artist sell his paint brushes to buy a few meals.

Respectfully,
Myriad
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It is time to call a spade a spade. No more pussyfooting around the firefighters,If they lied then I will say they LIED. You debunkers will employ your usual rubbish cheap trick of saying that I mean ALL 9/11 firefighters when I have made clear that I mean a specific few. But I have long ago learned not to expect more here on the jref 9/11 subforum.

Knock yourselves out.
 
bill smith said:
It is time to call a spade a spade. No more pussyfooting around the firefighters,If they lied then I will say they LIED. You debunkers will employ your usual rubbish cheap trick of saying that I mean ALL 9/11 firefighters when I have made clear that I mean a specific few. .
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Tell it to a fireman.
 
bill smith said:
It is time to call a spade a spade. No more pussyfooting around the firefighters,If they lied then I will say they LIED.
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I urge everyone to jump in and express how outraged bill smith's accusations make you feel, and to try your best to prove him wrong and maybe even change his mind.

Please, find it in your heart to perform this act of charity. He's in such need. Have pity.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
bill smith said:
What about this then 'WTC7 was fully involved in fire from floor to ceiling, all 47 floors'. Was that not specific enough ?
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That's not what "fully involved" means, bill. If you don't believe me or one of the fireman here, feel free to ask ANY firefighter of your choice. But you really need to stop being ignorant, cuz you're looking like a fool.
 
bill smith said:
It is time to call a spade a spade. No more pussyfooting around the firefighters,If they lied then I will say they LIED. You debunkers will employ your usual rubbish cheap trick of saying that I mean ALL 9/11 firefighters when I have made clear that I mean a specific few. But I have long ago learned not to expect more here on the jref 9/11 subforum.

Knock yourselves out.
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Bill, I'm a firefighter, you calling all of us firefighters "liars"? You have no idea what a firefighter does or goes through. For that, you think we have respect for someone like you or your kind (Truthers), who constantly lies & quote-mines the FDNY firefighters statements every time you think you have to prove a point about explosions being "explosives".

You have learned only 1 thing from this subforum and that is: You're wrong! You expect to get sympathy, when all you do is rub the 343 firefighers in the FDNY's noses. You have no right Bill!

You have no right to call them "liars". You are the one that's a liar & you are a liar!
 
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