Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[bill smith]

...and this proves...what, again?

They all saw the building fully-involved...so what? How does this prove anything other than they all saw the same thing?

Stick a banana on a table in the middle of a room full of 50 people, then ask everyone what they saw. Everyone may describe the banana in their own words...but in the end...it's just a banana.

I'd say you were grasping at straws...but I don't even think you're near the edge of reality anymore...

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

A Canadian 9/11 truth site is stating that JREFies are too frightened to debate the science behind their challenge that states that the official 9/11 story violates the laws of physics.

http://www.vernon911truth.org/wtc7challenge.html

Your prize offering still isn't big enough.

You need to make it big enough so that when one of us mails you the sworn affidavit of an engineer explaining the collapses, that there is money left over from us suing your ass when you refuse to pay (which you have all but flatly stated you will do).

 

[Bell]

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

Wow... RedIbis can learn a thing or two from you.

Damn, calling the FDNY firefighters liars. And don't ask us to disprove this. It's your claim, care to back up your claim about the firefighters being liars?

 

[triforcharity]

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

Because your knowledge of what constitutes a "fully involved" structure is lacking. Ie: Non-existant.

So, when you quotemine them and say they heard explosions, they were lying then too? When do you trust them? When it fits your misconceived theory?

 

[bill smith]

Wow... RedIbis can learn a thing or two from you.

Damn, calling the FDNY firefighters liars. And don't ask us to disprove this. It's your claim, care to back up your claim about the firefighters being liars?

I just did Bell. And unless you can show the North face completely on fire I am provably right. Those guys were lying in their teeth. One could be a mistake or an exaggeration. So could two or three. But not a dozen or more. Nope.

 

[Bell]

I just did Bell.

Quoting a lot of people stating the whole building was on fire does not proof they are lying

And unless you can show the North face completely on fire I am provably right. Those guys were lying in their teeth. One could be a mistake or an exaggeration or so could two or three. But not a dozen or more. Nope.

I don't have to show you anything. You claim they are lying, you back this up with providing visual evidence WTC7 was not or did not seem completely on fire. It's that simple.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I've explained myself ad nauseum and being the petulant and incivil poster you are, I don't really feel like obliging your tedious, previously answerd questions.

Re-read Gravy's page again. ALL of it. Because even the quotes that describe "only" 12 or 15 floors make your claims about WTC7 to be blatant lies. I believe Mackey made a post here where he ran the numbers, calculating the square footage of each WTC7 floor and showed that even with only 10 floors ablaze that WTC7 was the largest office building fire of all time.

Let me restate that for you so that you understand:

WTC7 WAS THE LARGEST OFFICE BUILDING FIRE IN GALACTIC HISTORY.

That is what the firefighters all claim to have seen. Whether it was 12 floors or 47. They were there that day, you were not. Many of them suffered grevious injury, all of them lost someone dear to them. A few of them even lost their own sons, fathers and brothers.

And what is your "expert" assessment of WTC7?

You said there was no discernible inferno at the WTC7.

Correct, because there isn't one.

You have implicitly and directly accused ALL of the firefighters of lying about the size and severity of the fires consuming the sacred shrine of your whacko cult. If you will not apologize to these men, at least be man enough to own up to it.

 

[bill smith]

Quoting a lot of people stating the whole building was on fire does not proof they are lying



I don't have to show you anything. You claim they are lying, you back this up with providing visual evidence WTC7 was not or did not seem completely on fire. It's that simple.

Np problem Bell. After you view this video by the terms of your own post you agree with me that the specific group of firefighters that I mentioned are LIARS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5MGdWNYLGc&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[jaydeehess]

What's bill's point with these FF quotes again?

That they all lied?
That they were all incorrect?
What?

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

Well that answers my question. That's the most succinct answer you have ever given bill.

So you will or will not be going to an NYC firehouse to tell these guys they are "damn liars"?

 

[beachnut]

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

You have delusions, and you prove it with each post. You are void of knowledge and judgment.

 

[jaydeehess]

bill, I contend that in the interview you posted , Wilkerson says absolutly nothing that lends support to any 911 conspiracy theory or contention at all.

Can you tell us again what you heard in that interview in which Wilkerson is saying something that does. Do be specific please.

Could you please answer this question too bill?

 

[bill smith]

Well that answers my question. That's the most succinct answer you have ever given bill.

So you will or will not be going to an NYC firehouse to tell these guys they are "damn liars"?

Well I would certainly be interested in talking to a certain 118 9/11 firefighters. The current guys are only regular firefighters and may all be hand-picked for all we know,

 

[beachnut]

Np problem Bell. After you view this video by the terms of your own post you agree with me that the specific group of firefighters that I mentioned are LIARS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5MGdWNYLGc&feature=player_embedded#!

You post the dumbest videos on earth! Moronic video bill, you have not lost your touch to post lies and delusions.

Fully involved: Term of size-up meaning fire, heat and smoke in a structure are so widespread that internal access must wait until fire streams can be applied.

You are not a liar bill, you are void of knowledge and repeat moronic delusions about 911.

You failed again! Good for you! 9 years of failure continues!


Yes, bill, WTC7 was fully involved! You failed! You can't get one thing right about 911. Batting zero, bill smith, for the 911 truth ball club of failure.

 

[jaydeehess]

Np problem Bell. After you view this video by the terms of your own post you agree with me that the specific group of firefighters that I mentioned are LIARS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5MGdWNYLGc&feature=player_embedded#!

You said there was no discernible inferno at the WTC7.

Correct, because there isn't one.

By your own standard bill, you are a damned liar. You state there was no discernible inferno and every firefighter on the scene will certainly disagree with that statement, the video of the inferno on several floors disagrees with you and your ignoring of these facts makes you, by your own standard at the very least, a damned liar.

 

[T.A.M.]

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR. Unless you can show me a picture of the North side of WTC7 completely on fire. And I know that you can't.

HYPERBOLE bill...look up the word. Most sane people use it from time to time...do you?

TAM

Edit: here,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Hyperboles are figures of speech that are exaggerated in order to create emphasis or effect. Hyperbole is a literary device often used in poetry, and is frequently encountered in casual speech. An example of hyperbole is: "The bag weighed a ton"

TAM

 

[bill smith]

Could you please answer this question too bill?

In answer to a question on the subject he said that theoretically speaking there should be a new 9/11 investigation. But that practically speaking they would just fix it and find themselves innocent.

I am not planning to go back and check the time stamp right now either. I can only suggest that people watch the interview for themselves.

 

[BigAl]

Well I would certainly be interested in talking to a certain 118 9/11 firefighters. The current guys are only regular firefighters and may all be hand-picked for all we know,

Those firemen wouldn't be hard to locate and contact if you really got off the couch and investigated something.

 

[jaydeehess]

Well I would certainly be interested in talking to a certain 118 9/11 firefighters. The current guys are only regular firefighters and may all be hand-picked for all we know,

,,, But bill, you state there was NO discernible inferno and every single fire fighter on scene AND the video recortd indiccates that there certainly was on several floors. Yet the only 'specific' group you wish to contend with are those who describe fire on every floor or WTC 7 as 'fully involved'. You have essentially called the entire contingent liars by stating there was no inferno so you should be talking to all of them.

 

[beachnut]

In answer to a question on the subject he said that theoretically speaking there should be a new 9/11 investigation. But that practically speaking they would just fix it and find themselves innocent.

I am not planning to go back and check the time stamp right now either. I can only suggest that people watch the interview for themselves.

You missed the investigation and can not learn! Sorry, no repeats for you!

It proves that every single one of those firefighters who said the building was fully involved in fire is a damn LIAR.

You failed, you don't know what fully involved means. You are clueless on this as you are on all issues about 911.


The firemen told the truth, you are the liar due to ignorance. You repeat this farce everyday you post.

 

[Bell]

Np problem Bell. After you view this video by the terms of your own post you agree with me that the specific group of firefighters that I mentioned are LIARS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5MGdWNYLGc&feature=player_embedded#!

Did you see the photo's and video's of the south side of that building