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Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...

TAM:)
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T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...

TAM:)
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Agreed. It's not a day for debates and disputes. It's a day to remember those who perished. I'll honor it as I have since I've been a member here.
 
Childlike Empress said:
http://911truthnews.com/the-facts-speak-for-themselves/
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The old hit and run, have no comment, just posting delusional junk from 911 truth failed dolts who can't figure out 911 after 8 years.

Pick one the idiotic points and support it. Oh, you have no evidence, you just post delusions made up by nuts on 911.

1. oh noes, he goes for the big smoking gun first.
lol, the guy is kind of nuts, he starts out with a rant of PNAC. Wow, he is starting 911 truth from the beginning, 8 years of moronic failure is not enough, he is shooting to make this a lifetime goal of failure.


Poor guy missed 911 and who did it.
Let’s have a real investigation, be it a domestic or international one, and do what can only be described as the right thing. Holding those responsible for the 9/11 attacks, whoever they may be, accountable.
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Jon there was a real investigation, and the 19 terrorists are dead. Why is Jon so dumb to restart 911 truth from the beginning and ignore all the other investigations.

CE, it has been over 8 years and you have failed to figure out 911 and posting without comment is SPAM! SPAM attack, and run.
 
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T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...
TAM:)
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Excellent call there TAM. Ditto for me.

Compus
 
RedIbis said:
Agreed. It's not a day for debates and disputes. It's a day to remember those who perished. I'll honor it as I have since I've been a member here.
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I'm sure the firefighters who saw massive raging fires and severe impact damage to WTC7 and knew it was going to fall appreaciate that you only call them liars 364 days a year.
 
T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...
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Highly recommended.

I'm going to be working with my volunteer group all weekend, and helping spread our message of community and patriotism.

Undoubtedly there will still be a few deluded malcontents trying to convince people that the enemies of the United States do not exist, that our own government is a fraud, and that many of our own countrymen are evil supergeniuses bent on an elaborate decades- or centuries-long programme of deception for its own sake. These people need professional help, and if I knew how to give it to them, I would.
 
Childlike Empress said:
"Hit and run"? At least you acknowledge it's a hit.

Your inane ramblings are getting old, btw.
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You posted regurgitated junk from a person who can't figure out 911. You can't figure out 911 so you spam jref.

You can't figure out 911, post SPAM without comment on your drive-by trash dumping. Do you drive by your neighbors house and dump your trash? That is what you just did. You don't have comments on your only action you take to figure out 911, dumb 911 truth trash at JREF.

Your failure to take a stand, or have a conclusions on 911 is getting old. Your drive-by trash drops are getting old.

Thanks for the trash drop, I visited all the sites to see Jon get arrested as he was a public nuisance at the White Hours.

How many other web sites have your followed Jon's order to spread his delusions? drop trash and run
 
T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...

TAM:)
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Now that is a very good idea, count me in.
 
T.A.M. said:
Just a note here, that 9/11/2010 is less then two weeks away. I will be observing a posting silence for that entire day, and would encourage others to do the same. Spend your online time that day doing other things, or go visit a victims memorial site...

TAM:)
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I just might go to the Flight 93 site.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I'm sure the firefighters who saw massive raging fires and severe impact damage to WTC7 and knew it was going to fall appreaciate that you only call them liars 364 days a year.
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I've never called a firefighter a liar, which makes you the liar. If I did, I'd like to see the quote, not what you interpret as calling them liars, but me actually saying it.

I know you can't.
 
RedIbis said:
I've never called a firefighter a liar, which makes you the liar. If I did, I'd like to see the quote, not what you interpret as calling them liars, but me actually saying it.

I know you can't.
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Ummm actually we can. You see, since you agree with the Truthers that firefighters heard explosive sounds, they assume that explosives were used. But firefighters aren't demolition experts are they? No, they're not!

So if you agree that firefighters heard explosions & you agree with the Truthers that they heard or saw explosives go off only means 1 thing: You're guilty by association.

Sorry, but that's how it is these days!
 
sabretooth47 said:
Who the hell is this guy? His use of sources don't even back up what he's spewing. What a collosal waste of time. :mad:
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Let's take "Fact 1"
Fact #1
The Bush Administration was predominantly made up of members of an organization called “The Project For A New American Century.” This group produced a document entitled, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” that said the “process of transformation” they wanted our military to undertake would take an excessively long time, unless there was a “catastrophic and catalyzing event ñ like a new Pearl Harbor.” That document was written in September 2000.
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Of course this is taken from ONE line referring to Pearl Harbor and is taken out of the context of the entire docuement.

Earlier in the docuement the history of the process and funding of military R&D is disccussed and of course there is a huge bubble in R&D during WW2 which of course was instigated by an attack on the USA. This line refers to that. In only the most paranoid of minds is this one line ADVOCATING an attack on the USA to stimulate funding.

Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor. Domestic politics and
industrial policy will shape the pace and
content of transformation as much as the
requirements of current missions. A
decision to suspend or terminate aircraft
carrier production, as recommended by this
report and as justified by the clear direction
of military technology, will cause great
upheaval.
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One might also note that in this very same paragraph the docuement brings up another recommendation , that is the suspension or termination of aircraft carrier building. One notes that this recommendation, mentioned in the same paragraph as Pearl Harbor has NOT come about. Indeed this is mentioned one more time in the docuement
Absent a rigorous program of
experimentation to investigate the nature of
the revolution in military affairs as it applies
to war at sea, the Navy might face a future
Pearl Harbor – as unprepared for war in the
post-carrier era as it was unprepared for war
at the dawn of the carrier age.
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The report wishes for carriers to be UAV carriers requiring more technology and fewer crew while covering a greater radius of ocean, to maintain Naval presence in the world's oceans.

In point of fact the entire docuement focuses on military R&D in order to project the type of military presence it envisions for the world. THAT is the main focus of the report. It does NOT call for extended wars on two fronts which drain the military budget away from the primary mission envisioned in the report, projecting USA military presence over the world as a whole.



Hmmm.
 
Fact #2
The Bush Administration came into office wanting to go to war with Iraq. This is so heavily documented that Veteran White House reporter Helen Thomas asked the President about it. He denied it of course, and used 9/11 as the justification for what he and his administration have done.

Former Secretary of Treasury Paul O’Neill said that Saddam was “topic A” ten days after the inauguration at the very first National Security Council meeting, and eight months before 9/11. According to O’Neill, “it was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this.’”

In a 2007 interview with former Counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke, he states that between March 2001 and May 2001, members of the Bush Administration discussed creating a “casus belli” for war with Iraq.

According to Merriam-Webster, a “casus belli” is “an event or action that justifies or allegedly justifies a war or conflict.”
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Hmmm but if an attack on the USA was to be designed to allow a war with Iraq, a casus belli, then the attacks of 911 really were badly designed for that purpose.
Fact- not one of the alledged hijackers was Iraqi
Fact- no ties between the alledged hijackers and the administration of Saddam Hussien was found. No money for the attacks came from Iraq.
Fact- AlQada was put forth as the organization that attacked the USA. AlQada was based in Afghanistan with a leader who has condemned Saddam in the past.
Fact- not once did Cheney or Bush put the blame for 911 on Saddam. In fact when accused of doing so they rightly say that they did not.

What the Bush administration did do was ride these attacks and mention them when speaking of Saddam inferring that he was as much a danger as the organization that actually did attack the USA.
 
jaydeehess said:
What the Bush administration did do was ride these attacks and mention them when speaking of Saddam inferring that he was as much a danger as the organization that actually did attack the USA.
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Right. :)

And further to that, I recall GW pointing specifically to the threat of WMD's and the fact that Saddam publicized the fact he was willing to harbor terrorists and/or their organizations.

I never heard or read any reports that he was blaming Iraq for 911.
 
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