Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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OK, a couple points to kick off.

I think the first thing to remember might be not to fall into the trap of replying in kind. I have found myself doing this or being tempted to do this many times.

"Don't feed the troll" is a good addage.

Also we might want to clarify a few things...
How do we publically ID trolls without seeming to be bullying posters? What are the hallmarks of trolling?

Compus

Is trolling illegal and on what grounds ? If you do not ike trolling- too bad. Then don't take the bait. If you are hooked and quickly despatched you have only yourself to blame. I recommend that all posters who are afraid of trolls should immediately put them on 'ignore'.
 
Sept. 11 Memorial Taking Shape

The Sept. 11 memorial is scheduled to be open for next year's 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks, but the site is already taking shape [...] By Sept. 11 of next year, this entire plaza should be completed. Victims' relatives will be able to visit the plaza at this year's anniversary ceremony.

Source: CBS New York
 
Sept. 11 Memorial Taking Shape



Source: CBS New York

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It's fun listening to two delusional morons go back and forth. Groundbreaking stuff there. I am glad he is looking into the possibility that the planes were remotely controlled. I look forward to him explaining or better yet avoiding answering the questions about the people on board the planes and why the pilots couldn't take over the controls.

I also like his comment that the governments version of events has never been proven.
 
Yup, delusional morons is correct. Anybody who even calls it the commonly-held narrative of 9-11 the "government's version of events" is probably an idiot.
 
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It's fun listening to two delusional morons go back and forth. Groundbreaking stuff there. I am glad he is looking into the possibility that the planes were remotely controlled. I look forward to him explaining or better yet avoiding answering the questions about the people on board the planes and why the pilots couldn't take over the controls.

I also like his comment that the governments version of events has never been proven.

I always imagine the missing passengers and crew on 9/11 Island drinking chilled martinis delivered by lissom native girls.There is no real need to follow that path any further than that at this time.

And there IS no proof that the government's version of events is true. That's why it's called the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory)
 
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And there IS no proof that the government's version of events is true.
There is no alternative version, so regardless of the existing proof (of which there are lots actually, you just refuse to accept it, but it's still proof) it's the only one which explains what happened.
 
There is no alternative version, so regardless of the existing proof (of which there are lots actually, you just refuse to accept it, but it's still proof) it's the only one which explains what happened.

I did ask Bill what his version was,but to no avail.
 
And there IS no proof that the government's version of events is true. That's why it's called the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory)

Are you joking? Say it's faked, say whatever you want about it, but the evidence to support what you call the OCT is HUGE. Where have you been bill?
 
Are you joking? Say it's faked, say whatever you want about it, but the evidence to support what you call the OCT is HUGE. Where have you been bill?

It's possible he's been living under a bridge and subsisting on the flesh of goats for 9 years.

Sounds gruff...
 
I always imagine the missing passengers and crew on 9/11 Island drinking chilled martinis delivered by lissom native girls.There is no real need to follow that path any further than that at this time.

And there IS no proof that the government's version of events is true. That's why it's called the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory)

That is just disgusting and uncalled for bill.
 
I see that David Chandler and I are now pretty much on the same page about the top part of WTC1 being merely an assembly of 12 single floors and the the bottom part being a more strongly built assembly of 98 single floors. In other words they destroy each other a floor at a time leaving the top 12 floors gone while 86 floors of the lower assembly still remain in a worst-case scenario.
What would really happen as we should all know intuitively is that the top assembly would fall on the lower assembly causing some local damage to both assemblies and then the collapse would almost immediately arrest leaving the top part again sitting on the lower part that had already carried it for 40 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8&feature=player_embedded

Do as I do,stop responding to the eejit.

bill, ,,,long unbraced columns......

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um yes, dafydd, you are correct of course.
 
C7 (and Chandler) think the audio on this news video is evidence of man-made demolition at WT7. We should be able to figure out the distance fairly accurately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0pKUz8UpSs

I think that the street it is taken from is the same as this one:

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I AGREE


And I'd say that it's evidence instead of the total lack of sound of explosions.
 
You know it is funny, the posturing by CTists, maintaining that it is we, jref debunkers, who are the CTists, in particular bill made a comment on how we will believe anything etc...

So here is a challenge. If we are the CTists, then our view, that on 9/11 arab hijackers crashed 4 planes, 2 into the WTCs, 1 into the Pentagon, and one in Shanksville, via the orders of OBL, then our opinion should be in the vast Minority....so....

Everyone, over the next few days go out and ask 20 people at random, what happened on 9/11. That is all no other questions...no poisoning the well, just that simple question. See how many tell you it was hijackers and planes and osama, versus how many tell you it was the us government.

TAM:)
 
Everyone, over the next few days go out and ask 20 people at random, what happened on 9/11. That is all no other questions...no poisoning the well, just that simple question. See how many tell you it was hijackers and planes and osama, versus how many tell you it was the us government.

That wouldn't really prove anything ;)

I'd rather the truthers write something and get it published instead of just bandying about on internet forums. If their evidence of CD/no planes/aliens/DEW is so ironclad they should have no problem writing up something and getting published. It's been 9 freaking years and nothing substantial or coherent has come out of it.
 
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