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Conservapedia on Atheism

Edges said:
Actually, I think that one is close to "use of reason" being that they think "learned times" is a cause of atheism. Since they think atheism is bad, does that mean they also think peace and prosperity are bad? And what about all the people who believe peace and prosperity come from God?

I'm not sure what "superficiality" is supposed to mean or what it has to do with atheism.
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Well, the "learned times" is a theory of science nowadays. They point out that, in Europe, The State has taken over much of what made people look at religion positively: helping the poor, helping the elderly, tending to the sick, and so on. So there's less for religion "to do" other than emphasize the core tenet about believing in Jesus to be saved. Note that the Reformationist churches got a good start on this since, at the time, the Catholic church was in the same position of power, and hence they discount the value of "Good Works" in salvation.
 
Delvo said:
I don't know how common this is, but I was "conservative", and still think the same things, but don't think of myself as "conservative" now, because the word doesn't mean what it once meant (which was about government and economics, not religion). Too many prominent Republicans claiming to represent conservatism have recently gone along with the liberals' lies about who we are and what we think (such as at the Republicans' early Presidential "debates" when they had those ridiculous questions about their "conservative credentials"), so now there's nobody left defending any other definition, and no label left for the rest of us who have non-liberal political & economic beliefs but aren't theocrat wannabes. The word is now only applied to the theocrat wannabes, both by liberals and by themselves. We can't claim the word anymore, or even assert our ideas in the general public awareness and flow of ideas, because we simply have no significant representation in government or in news media.
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I'm in that boat also and from what I've discovered, the modern conservative views began in the 50's when Senator Macarthy (sp?) made the cold war into evil communist atheists vs good capitalist christians.

I believe in the rights of the individual and that government should only do that which individuals can't do on their own. These used to be the hallmarks of conservatives. Now all they try to do is shove their religion down people's throats.
 
Here's what is really sad about Conservapedia... do you know why the site got started?

It was basically started as a response by the fundamentalist Christian home-school movement so that those kids would have a place to go on the Internet to get the "right answers" on a variety of topics (see Wikipedia's entry on Conservapedia). They were afraid of the information their kids might be exposed to by going somewhere else like, gasp, Wikipedia. Just take a look at their entry on Wikipedia.

In other words, it's just another way for the fundies to put blinders on their kids, brainwash them, and keep them "safe" from the outside world. As I said, it's sad.
 
Schlafley is an idiot and full of it. When I saw this page on Flipperithecus (linked to on the Evolution main page), I Googled to uncover the truth about it. Only finding a handful of other crazy Creationist sites citing it, I contacted Tim White directly via e-mail. He responded the next day and clarified that he's made an off hand, sarcastic remark during a panel and somehow the Creationists had morphed him into the second coming of Charles Dawson.

That was 5 or 6 months ago... and the Flipperithecus page still stands on Conservapedia.

eta, :rolleyes: I just checked the talk page
Obviously it's not my call, but I actually thought this article was vandalism until I saw who worked on it. The *only* google hits on this word are on this article. Are you sure you haven't been had on this? Aziraphale 15:46, 23 July 2007 (EDT) <-king of the sea...

>There aren't too many hits even on this. Are there any sources more recent than 1983? DanH 19:30, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

>>It was misspelled before. I fixed it. Conservative 19:31, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
>>>I think that the 1983 material is sufficient. I don't think the evolutionists want to write about this now since it was an embarrassment. Conservative 19:33, 15 August 2007 (EDT)
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eta2 - Oh god it just gets better. Check out "Conservative"s page.
http://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative
 
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Lonewulf said:
Like Muslims and 9/11, there doesn't seem to be any conservatives denouncing Conservapedia.

I guess BPSCG would take this evidence that all conservatives agree with Conservapedia.
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I hereby denounce Conservapedia. I just thought I'd help Beeps out with some of his light work. (If you've ever met him in person, you'll find him good company. Gregarious, and funny.)

Of course, since I am not a True Conservative, that may not accomodate your complaint. I didn't order a kilt, since I am, among other things, an advocate of legalizing dope.

It is Scriptural.

From New King James Version of the Bible, we find it in
Genesis 1: 11-29, with a bit excised
a modest C & P from the Biblegateway site said:
11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
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27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. 30 Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food”; and it was so. 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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And on the seventh day, God created the Twinkie. And it was good. (I may go to Hell for that, making up stuff about God doing stuff and such, but I have complete faith that God has a sense of humor, one far better than mine. Bettin' me immortal arse on that, in fact. )

DR
 
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I went there recently and thought it had improved a little. It was a spectacularly silly place when it first started. The entry for kangaroo had little or no information about kangaroos and piece on how they got to Australia by sitting on floating vegetation after being released from the Ark.

I laughed until I stopped.
 
Bwahahaha

“ The reality is that the New Atheist campaign, by discouraging religion, won't create a new group of intelligent, skeptical, enlightened beings. Far from it: It might actually encourage new levels of mass superstition. And that's not a conclusion to take on faith -- it's what the empirical data tell us.

"What Americans Really Believe," a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that traditional Christian religion greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of astrology. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians....

This is not a new finding. In his 1983 book "The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener," skeptic and science writer Martin Gardner cited the decline of traditional religious belief among the better educated as one of the causes for an increase in pseudoscience, cults and superstition. He referenced a 1980 study published in the magazine Skeptical Inquirer that showed irreligious college students to be by far the most likely to embrace paranormal beliefs, while born-again Christian college students were the least likely.[7]
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I take back what I said it is a place for ass hats to vent their spleen.

It did make me laugh though :D

It must be an embarrassment to every Conservative with more than two neurons firing.
 
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