So, where does the life of you go when the brain ceases to function? It's obviously not bound up in the brain or, any other part of the physical body. Could it be that it originated from some place else? How much do we really know about EMF and the atomic grid by which everything is laid out? Could it be that something exists on the other side of matter that tells it how to structure itself?
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If the body draws everything else in from outside of itself, why not consciousness? This would not be out of accord with materialism would it? ... Albeit it would seem to imply the existence of something even more subtle than matter.
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Are you exothermic?
Not necessarily. All it requires is evidence that it occurs. Of that there is none.
Please do not use words you do not understand.
Worms eat it. Read a biology book. Pay attention to the parts about cellular metabolism.Iacchus said:
As obvious as that the earth is flat, and that the sun circles us each day.
Could it be? Yes. Got any evidence at all? Any? Any at all?
If by "we" you mean you, we know nothing. If by "we" you mean the physicists who study such things, perhaps you should read what they write. We know quite an amazing amount of truly fascinating stuff. The things for which there is good, solid evidence far surpass the fevered dreams of Swedenborg or Iacchus. You don't know what you are missing.
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Dang it! Once again Merc beats me to the answers.
Of course, it's easy to hit the softballs that Iacchus is pitching, especially when he has made the same pitch so many times.
Come on, Iacchus. Treat us to an original thought once and a while.
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A Theist and an Atheist die and when they get to the other side :
Thiest: I thought it would be a bit more glittery and shiny, more Angels blowing welcoming horns, how disapointing.
Athiest: Wow! this was totally unexpected, who knew eh?
One thing is for sure, we are all destined for the same fate, what happens or doesn't happen after that is irrelevant for now, make the most of this life and stop worrying about what might come next. There's no point in trying to convince us that there might be something else. If you are convinced yourself, then be content with that. It sounds more like your not sure yourself and are looking to others to bolster your own doubtful convictions. Its nice to be part of like minded people, that's why people go to church, I just don't think you'll find that kind of support here.
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Where does the consciousness of a roach go when it dies? How about a mule? Why are you so conviced that you go somewhere special?
And science knows quite a bit...you can learn it too--but quit reading sci-fi and pseudoscientific philosophies--get your science from scientist. Yes it could all be magic...but, when something exists it has properties one can measure in some fashion...when something doesn't exist, we call it "imaginary". We don't make up gods, when natures laws explain phenomena just fine. And if we don't understand something, we keep approaching it and challenging it--we don't apply some "mystical" band-aid "answer" that involves "magic" and other untestable woo woo stuff.
I think Iacchus hangs out here trying to convince himself.
Really, Iacchus...there are tons of websites where people like you can blather on and on encouraging whatever delusion you all agree upon. You can take their anecdotes as evidence and reaffirm your divine natures ad nauseum. Pick a cult... There are so many...and you have loads of blind faith--just what they need. Scientology has openings...and it looks like they have just the "scientific" type explanations for things you gravitate towards. Coincidence? (I'm channeling a higher power that told me to give deliver this message to you.)
You're a wee bit better than the million dollar challenge lady--but not a lot. Did you read her stuff?
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i have been put down on drugs still with my brain going and i woke up in the middle of a surgery
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Actually, that's not completely true. Delusional people are very specific about the kinds of delusions they will tolerate. As I recall, Iacchus has been banned from a few theistic forums because his own particular flavor of dementia is not in line with theirs. So he started his own forum (see his sig) but nobody goes there. It's kind of ironic that one of the few places he can rant and be heard is at a skeptic website. We seem to be more tolerant (which does not mean accepting) of varied viewpoints than religious forums. Perhaps that's because we aren't threatened by competing imaginary friends.
What, do you mean like 1 + 1 = 2? Well, I suppose we could try 2 - 1 = 1. But then again, it still pretty much amounts to the same thing.Dang it! Once again Merc beats me to the answers.
Of course, it's easy to hit the softballs that Iacchus is pitching, especially when he has made the same pitch so many times.
Come on, Iacchus. Treat us to an original thought once and a while.
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i have done research on this and done it
There's plenty of evidence. It's just that it's not conclusive ... to you.
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i have messed with the crossroads if you do 2 things like on 2 roads at the same time you can go there not for long in our time but yuo can go there
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I'm not sure what kind of mind-altering substances you're on, but you might want to go sleep it off before you try to post. . .
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Going in circles, as always.
"No, Iacchus (or Interesting Ian, or insert your favorite character here) that is illogical, and besides, there is no evidence to support it".
"Oh yes, there are lots of evidence, but you can't understand it"
It is really interesting to see that some people will simply persist, no matter what, in their beliefs.
"No, Iacchus (or Interesting Ian, or insert your favorite character here) that is illogical, and besides, there is no evidence to support it".
"Oh yes, there are lots of evidence, but you can't understand it"
It is really interesting to see that some people will simply persist, no matter what, in their beliefs.
Just another wild hunch on your part, Tricky? There's only one forum I've been banned from, and it was not a theistic site. In fact they banned me because they thought I was a bit too theistic ... not to mention confrontational of course.
It may or may not be observable under a microscope. I don't know? This is not how I've come to observe it.
Or beligerent perhaps? Obviously this site has set itself up to argue against such things. And what would be the point, if nobody came to argue?
Ok, so I'm a lost cause. For the sake of the others reading this thread, then, please post the evidence. If there is plenty of it, I will look all the more a fool.
You do know what evidence is, don't you? Or is that another word you use only the Iacchian definition for?