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Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

Newtons Bit said:
Someone caught him sending a picture of his junk on the internet. Weiner then said that someone hacked his account. That statement is a lie.

I know you don't think breaking marriage vows is a character flaw. Is lying/placing blame on others okay too?
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Is not having enough sense to realize you will get caught sending explicit emails to strangers a character flaw or is it just a flaw in someones common sense?
 
Travis said:
That any of this is evidence of a personal character "flaw" is entirely subjective.
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According to both his account and Gennette's he sent the crotch-shot to her unsolicited and out of the blue. She was a college student and a progressive, obviously a bit starry-eyed that a big-time congressman was paying attention to her. And yet he was obviously grooming her to be another one of his online sext partners.

To go back to Einstein, it's like a young Princeton coed in the 1940s came to his office to discuss a homework assignment and he dropped trou on her. I don't know, maybe that's the kind of guy Einstein was. But if it was, I doubt anybody would have any qualms pointing out that it was a flaw in his character.
 
Brainster said:
To go back to Einstein, it's like a young Princeton coed in the 1940s came to his office to discuss a homework assignment and he dropped trou on her. I don't know, maybe that's the kind of guy Einstein was. But if it was, I doubt anybody would have any qualms pointing out that it was a flaw in his character.
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Maybe he did it to illustrate a physics lesson? :)
 
BTW, for a real gas, check out Joe Cannon's increasingly unhinged defense of Weiner.
A new batch of Weiner photos -- tomfoolery in the Congressional shower, it appears -- will soon be visible, if they have not already appeared. Drip, drip, drip. Such things do not happen by accident: Obviously, this exercise in Chinese water torture was planned.

Nobody is asking the obvious question: How were these photos obtained?
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Nobody is asking the obvious question for the simple reason that the answer is obvious. One of Weiner's online paramours is cashing in on her 15 minutes of fame.
 
Travis said:
That any of this is evidence of a personal character "flaw" is entirely subjective.
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I describe his actions as incredibly poor judgement, first in the tweeting, then in lying to cover it up. That is enough for me to not want his representation if I were in his district.
 
Travis said:
That any of this is evidence of a personal character "flaw" is entirely subjective.
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Wow. Just... wow.

Are you even serious? Or are you just yanking my chain to see if I'll bite?

You've got to be taking the piss. You just can't be serious.
 
Obama weighs in on the scandal: Obama said that if he were Democratic Congressman Anthony Weiner right now, he would resign in the wake of the scandal.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
Maybe he did it to illustrate a physics lesson? :)
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A Laughing Baby said:
"See, the fabric of space-time really IS curved!"
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"Behold! A sufficiently massive object does bend light!"

"Observe: A pendulum may be approximated as a harmonic oscillator of frequency sqrt(g / L)... but only for large L."

On topic:

I could care less if Weiner buggered a crocodile in my own living room. This is not a partisan stance*: I am indifferent to lechery, perversion, tomfoolery, and yes... even shenanigans on the part of any elected official. For instance, I wish Larry Craig countless satisfying encounters in airport restrooms. More power to him.


* Although it may be a wide one.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Someone caught him sending a picture of his junk on the internet. Weiner then said that someone hacked his account. That statement is a lie.

I know you don't think breaking marriage vows is a character flaw. Is lying/placing blame on others okay too?
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People do crazy things when they are panicked.

Brainster said:
According to both his account and Gennette's he sent the crotch-shot to her unsolicited and out of the blue. She was a college student and a progressive, obviously a bit starry-eyed that a big-time congressman was paying attention to her. And yet he was obviously grooming her to be another one of his online sext partners.

To go back to Einstein, it's like a young Princeton coed in the 1940s came to his office to discuss a homework assignment and he dropped trou on her. I don't know, maybe that's the kind of guy Einstein was. But if it was, I doubt anybody would have any qualms pointing out that it was a flaw in his character.
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But they would only point out this as a character flaw if they disagreed with him. Like about politics. That's what this is all about. Trashing someone from the "other side." Then using their actions in this one regard to try and impugn every ideological stance they have.

Neally said:
I describe his actions as incredibly poor judgement, first in the tweeting, then in lying to cover it up. That is enough for me to not want his representation if I were in his district.
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You wouldn't have wanted him to represent you before this.

Ziggurat said:
Wow. Just... wow.

Are you even serious? Or are you just yanking my chain to see if I'll bite?

You've got to be taking the piss. You just can't be serious.
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I don't care what a politician does in his spare time as long as it isn't illegal. They can be bathing in puppy blood for all I care. I just want them to get things done on the job.
 
Travis said:
I don't care what a politician does in his spare time as long as it isn't illegal. They can be bathing in puppy blood for all I care. I just want them to get things done on the job.
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Before you challenged the idea that events have revealed any character flaw in Weiner. Now you're claiming that you don't care about character flaws. That's a rather significant change in position.
 
Vorticity said:
Have you met a human?
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A couple. Most people I know are bots. Some are photo-shopped.

A few of them are even good under pressure. I'd like the people who run this country, and who are in the line of succession for the person with access to the big red "kill the entire human race" button to be good under pressure. We only need to find about 600 out of 300 million...
 
Brainster said:
To go back to Einstein, it's like a young Princeton coed in the 1940s came to his office to discuss a homework assignment and he dropped trou on her. I don't know, maybe that's the kind of guy Einstein was. But if it was, I doubt anybody would have any qualms pointing out that it was a flaw in his character.
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Terrible analogy. They had photographs and snail mail back then. So the correct analogy would be that Einstein sent a picture of himself partially disrobed to a coed. One who he had heard through the grapevine expressing she had the hots for him.

It doesn't really sound so terrible when put that way does it!


GB
 
Travis said:
People do crazy things when they are panicked.
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This wasn't a spur of the moment lie to cover up that his hand was in the cookie jar. It was a thought out plan that included supposedly hiring a law firm. Sorry, I don't give him a pass on the coverup job because he "panicked". He'd still be sticking with the lie had more photos not come out and all evidence to his guilt kept piling up. And you would have dutifully supported him.

You wouldn't have wanted him to represent you before this.
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I wouldn't want anyone with his poor judgement to represent me, regardless of his politics.

I don't care what a politician does in his spare time as long as it isn't illegal. They can be bathing in puppy blood for all I care. I just want them to get things done on the job.
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Character and judgement flaws are not things that necessarily can be segregated from personal and public life. The guy is a creepy lying rat, regardless of his other accomplishments.
 
Neally said:
I wouldn't want anyone with his poor judgement to represent me, regardless of his politics.

Character and judgement flaws are not things that necessarily can be segregated from personal and public life. The guy is a creepy lying rat, regardless of his other accomplishments.
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I'm done with the other stuff, but I just had to ask:

Do you hold David Vitter to the same standard?

Should every Republican ever involved in a sex-scandal resign?

Just wondering. :)


GB
 
davefoc said:
I had exactly the opposite idea. The purpose of the rehab is to provide an excuse to mitigate his responsibility for his actions. i.e. I know I did bad, but I was sick and now I'm better. Assuming I'm right, it is a pretty good strategy. The advocates for resignation will now need to deal with a man dealing with a sickness. Is it really fair to force a man to resign when his sickness made him do it? And now he's gone to professionals and they've fixed him. Is it really fair to force a man to resign when doctors have cured him?

My guess, is this guy rides out the end of his term. Reelection will be interesting. He won't get support from national Democrats but he may not need it.
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Sickness? The guy is plain stupid.
 
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