Congressman Cunningham Busted for Taking Bribes

WildCat said:
Federal sentencing guidelines dictate that you have to serve 85% of your sentence, so the minimum time he could serve is 7 years. I doubt you'd think it was a hotel if you were there, and his actual prison hasn't yet been determined.
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San Quentin has a few vacancies. It's state, but it's a lot less posh than Club Fed.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Sigh. Corrupt politicians are depressing. And even the threat of minimum security prison and slaps-on-the-wrist doesn't seem to deter them.

I suggest a new punishment for bribery. Have the dollar amount of the total bribes calculated, then that value in gold procured and melted. The molten gold should then be poured down the throat of the politician. If he or she survives, there will be no further punishment.

When I think "deterrent", I think "deterrent that will haunt the nightmares of politicians for generations to come."
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Hey, it worked in Mexico.
 
Roadtoad said:
San Quentin has a few vacancies. It's state, but it's a lot less posh than Club Fed.
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This isn't exactly posh, or am I missing the golf course?

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Cleon said:
Well, I think when TM and RT are saying "posh," they mean "anything that doesn't involve molten gold and/or scorpions." :D
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I never used the word "posh". To me, Posh is a Spice Girl. And as such, far more horrible a fate than molten gold or scorpions.
 
Roadtoad said:
Oh, God. You are one sick b@st@rd. Why would you even MENTION the Spice Girls?
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An actual conversation that occured:

ME: "The other night, I dreamt I was a Spice Girl?"
FRIEND: "Which one?"
ME: "Well, Posh, of course."
 
luchog said:
Yup. Nothing says "deterrant" like spending a few years in a federal minimum security hotel prison.

Anyone want to lay odds he'll actually serve his entire sentence, and not be released early on parole?
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I feel a presidential pardon coming on.
 
kalen said:
I feel a presidential pardon coming on.
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jj said:
Ditto for the Plame perps, whoever they turn out to be.
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Hey, Mark, you catching this? This is what a failure of skepticism on a political discussion board looks like. Confident conjecture entirely divorced from any precedent or factual support.
 
manny said:
Hey, Mark, you catching this? This is what a failure of skepticism on a political discussion board looks like. Confident conjecture entirely divorced from any precedent or factual support.
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Once again, Manny lies outright, representing an ironic expectation about politicians as a "failure of skepticism". In this, Manny is caught both ethically and morally in a serious lapse, and his dishonesty is shown outright.

It's dishonest, deliberately misleading attacks like Manny's here that turn this forum (politics) into such a s**tpot. In this, Manny attempts to dishonestly turn attention from the criminal acts of politicians, including those high in the administration (i.e. the Plame leakers) to the people who are reminding the public of those crimes, by dishonestly misrepresenting their obviously ironic expectations (after all, there can't be any pardon from the Plame affair, we have yet to see any real indictments) as a "failure of skepticism".

Manny, I call on you to retract your accusation and to apologize for the obvious mischaracterization involved. "Free speech" does not mean "speech without responsibility", it means that you have the option to put your foot into your mouth, like you just did. When that happens, you have the obligation to fully and completely take absolute responsibility for your lapse.
 
Manny, I don't know what the whole beef is here, since I have been trying to avoid the politics board for a while for the sake of my sanity, but Geez! Dude! Seriously, there's something wrong with leaking the name of an active CIA officer. There is simply no excuse for that.

I realize we're still digging out the information about who's responsible for it, (and I don't accept for a moment that Scooter Libby is solely responsible for this), but there's more than enough info coming out that suggests someone in the administration DID leak it to Novak.

Frankly, had it been leaked to Richard Cohen, I'm willing to bet there would have been heads rolling by now. And I don't mean entirely figuratively.

We've got Democrats and Republicans upping the ante day after day. Frankly, I'd like to tell them, "Fine. You want to up the ante? Up yours."
 
manny said:
Hey, Mark, you catching this? This is what a failure of skepticism on a political discussion board looks like. Confident conjecture entirely divorced from any precedent or factual support.
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No, just skeptical that justice will be done. For that, there is plenty of precedent and factual support.
 
kalen said:
No, just skeptical that justice will be done. For that, there is plenty of precedent and factual support.
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Unfortunately.

Sadly, I think you're right on this one. The only thing to bet on is will it be around the two year mark, or the four year mark. My guess is that it will happen as soon as we're not looking or paying attention.

And it'll happen in Bush's Administration.
 
Roadtoad said:
Unfortunately.

Sadly, I think you're right on this one. The only thing to bet on is will it be around the two year mark, or the four year mark. My guess is that it will happen as soon as we're not looking or paying attention.

And it'll happen in Bush's Administration.
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There is literally not a shred of evidence which would support even a conjecture that former Rep. Cunningham, Mr. Libby or any person who might be in the future implicated in the Plame matter will be pardoned. None. It is equally as plausible that Sylvia Browne will read Karl Rove's mind and get to the bottom of things as it is to believe that.
 
jj said:
Manny, I call on you to retract your accusation and to apologize for the obvious mischaracterization involved.
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That's OK, I call on you to stop making me giggle with your red-faced whining, pouting and general tantruming but you won't do that, either, so we're even.
 
manny said:
There is literally not a shred of evidence which would support even a conjecture that former Rep. Cunningham, Mr. Libby or any person who might be in the future implicated in the Plame matter will be pardoned. None. It is equally as plausible that Sylvia Browne will read Karl Rove's mind and get to the bottom of things as it is to believe that.
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I understand your point, but I disagree completely that it "is equally as plausible that Sylvia Browne will read Karl Rove's mind and get to the bottom of things as it is to believe that."

Sylvia Browne's successful reading of Karl Rove's mind for the answer would require breaching the laws of physics.

Whereas Bush pardoning Cunningham, Libby, etc. would simply require him to be a sleazeball politician.

So I'd say the "pardon" scenario is slightly more likely than the Sylvia Brown scenario. Call me crazy.
 
Sorry, Manny, but more and more, Bush looks like a sleaze. Makes me feel okay for wanting to write in a candidate for the last presidential election, but makes me feel like a sh** because I didn't.
 
Whatever your beliefs about that, there's no evidence whatsoever that he's a pardoning sleaze. He has been extremely tight with the pardon pen both as governor and as president.

Care to put up some money on Cunningham? Say a thousand?
 
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