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Compatibility between Science and Genesis

Darwin123 said:
Who is this 'they'?

Adam, Eve, God, angels, the snake, ....?
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Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis, along with the rest of the Torah. That guy was so awesome, he could precisely describe his own death.

Darwin123 said:
My copy of Genesis is missing the author citation, preface, edition number
and copyright!
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My copy of the Bible says it was translated, from the original languages, into Dutch on orders of the States-General and the Dordrecht Synod of 1618/1619. I think that predates the concept of copyright. :)
 
ddt said:
Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis, along with the rest of the Torah. That guy was so awesome, he could precisely describe his own death.


My copy of the Bible says it was translated, from the original languages, into Dutch on orders of the States-General and the Dordrecht Synod of 1618/1619. I think that predates the concept of copyright. :)
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Maybe he planned his own suicide?
 
ddt said:
Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis, along with the rest of the Torah. That guy was so awesome, he could precisely describe his own death.

My copy of the Bible says it was translated, from the original languages, into Dutch on orders of the States-General and the Dordrecht Synod of 1618/1619. I think that predates the concept of copyright. :)
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Although Moses allegedly wrote it, he was acting as a mere amanuensis on behalf of the true Author of the work, YHWH, a being at that time employed as a god by the goatherds mentioned in earlier posts.

You are right: Netherlands' copyright law postdates 1619; but in its current form it contains a relevant provision:
No formalities, such as copyright registration, are necessary to obtain a copyright. The duration of a copyright is 70 years after the death of the author (article 37).
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So either Nietzsche was right or the copyright is still in force.
 
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Craig B said:
Although Moses allegedly wrote it, he was acting as a mere amanuensis on behalf of the true Author of the work, YHWH, a being at that time employed as a god by the goatherds mentioned in earlier posts.
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Some claim that. Has YHWH ever appeared in a court of law to substantiate this claim?

Craig B said:
You are right: Netherlands' copyright law postdates 1619; but in its current form it contains a relevant provision:
No formalities, such as copyright registration, are necessary to obtain a copyright. The duration of a copyright is 70 years after the death of the author (article 37).
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So either Nietzsche was right or the copyright is still in force.
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There are some more possibilities than those two:
1) The copyright may have expired under previous Dutch copyright laws (those of 1817 or 1881). Unfortunately, I cannot find their texts online.
2) Copyright, as all laws, only applies to natural persons, humans. YHWH is alleged to be a supernatural person, and as such, cannot be a copyright holder, as much as a monkey (think the famous monkey selfie) or my cat cannot be copyright holders either.
3) The copyright on the Dutch translation is a separate issue. And as it has no named author (translator), the copyright expires 70 years after first publication, which is long past.
4) YHWH has never actually put forth a credible argument that He is the original author of the Torah, much less the whole Bible. No court has heard Him, nor His attorneys, prove this by legal standards.
 
SezMe said:
In this thread, Vixen made this comment:


Follow up in that thread would be way off topic so I started this thread.

Vixen, maybe you can start by expanding on your belief.
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So, you did send a private message to Vixen inviting that poster to this thread, right?
 
ddt said:
Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis, along with the rest of the Torah. That guy was so awesome, he could precisely describe his own death.
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Can you imagine his reaction when God dictated this to him:

Deu 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.​

"Say what???!!!"

Interestingly, Deu 34:7 has the following:

Deu 34:7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.​

I think Moses sneaked the highlighted part in!
 
ddt said:
Tradition says Moses wrote Genesis, along with the rest of the Torah. That guy was so awesome, he could precisely describe his own death.
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Not only that, he made it a point to not let anyone know where he was buried.
 
Vixon said:
However, did we once swing from trees to slowly change into humans?
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Monkeys don't swing from trees; they climb on top of the branches. However, apes do swing with their weight under the branch. Humans are similarly capable of swinging so humans are also apes. In other words, humans didn't evolve from apes; humans are still apes.

I believe humans have always been humans.
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Even the bible doesn't say that. Are you saying that the bible is wrong?

I think Genesis is pretty accurate as the creation story.
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Are you talking about:
1.) Genesis mangled into a children's story?
2.) Genesis read as an adult with common sense?
3.) Genesis plus the missing parts?
4.) Genesis plus the parts before Genesis?
 
Science and Genesis are fully compatible: I sincerely believe Phil Collins was created in a lab by a mad scientist.
 
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