Comparison: Bush and Hitler

I heard that Hitler had only one testicle.

I don't know how many Bush has. But as for his athletic prowess, he was a male cheerleader in college, wasn't he?
 

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[table=head] Hitler | Bush
only had one ball | has two but very small
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Now we are getting to the heart of the matter. And speaking of same: I have maintained (purely due to the level and style of thinking evidenced in O's posts (make that multitudinous posts)) that O had a limited capacity for full understanding of the topic he has been trying to develop due to a lack of understanding of certain important factors of America/Americans. The response to this OP verifies that perfectly. That Oliver could not foresee that response is near perfect evidence that my belief was correct.

Once more, Oliver, there is a giant difference between Germany and the U.S. simply due to the differences in size and time as a developed nation. You continue to act as if this makes no difference. I strongly suggest you invest time in either intense study of sociology or intense study of history as it relates to geographically large states.
 
A search within this Subforum didn't reveal a similar thread,
so let me ask directly - even if this Issue surfaced already in
one or the other Thread-Derail:

Probably all of you heard some people comparing the current
White House/Bush/Cheney etc. to the Nazi-Regime/Hitler - and
the similarities about how both Administrations "adjust" democratic
regulations in a way that rather limits freedoms.

Now many arguments I heard so far seem to be pretty far-fetched
or simply straightway wrong. Here are some examples for Issues
that get compared between both Administrations:

Guantanamo - Auschwitz
Patriot Act - Enabling Act
911 Attacks - Reichstag fire
Habeas corpus - Reichstag Fire Decree
Blackwater - SS
Iraq invasion - Poland invasion

Feel free to add - if you remember comparisons I forgot here...

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Just recently Colbert had an Author on his show who did write
a book about "The End of America: A Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot.":
The Colbert Report: Naomi Wolf on Fascism in America

There's also a Website that sums up some of these comparisons:
http://www.mninter.net/~hedwards/bush/hitler-bush.htm

So my question is:

From a skeptic point of view: How far-fetched are these comparisons
and which ones are realistic and indeed comparable?

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ETA:
Even if it may sound like a bad joke for some people, the thread
has a serious question because Germans in the 1930's would have
laughed about such a thread as well.

And we all know what came after the laughter, don't we?

Nah.
 
So my question is:

From a skeptic point of view: How far-fetched are these comparisons
and which ones are realistic and indeed comparable?

How far-fetched are these comparisons? Incredibaly far fetched.

Which ones are realistic and indeed comparable? None of them
 
[table=head] Hitler | Bush
Had a problem with Bearded guys with hats | Has a problem with a bearded guy with a turban
Killed his dog | Plays with dog
Dead | Brain Dead [/table]
 
I follow up on this:
Mein Kampf by Hitler compares well with the right wing agenda that Reagan, Bush I, and -more than anyone- Bush II espouse.

More about this comparison when I get a list together, soon.
The book Taking Back America by Katrina van den Heuvel has a chapter titled Rolling Back the Twentieth Century, written by William Greider -who also wrote The Soul of Capitalism-.

An excerpt is:

"GEORGE W. BUSH, PROPERLY understood, represents the third and most powerful wave in the Right's long-running assault on the government order created by twentieth-century liberalism.
The first wave was Ronald Reagan,...
...
They do not expect any of these far-reaching goals to be fulfilled during Bush's tenure, but they assume that history is on their side and that the next wave will come along soon...
..."


The right-wing agenda of government favoring concentration of the wealth, started by Goldwater, pursued by Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II is:

.) eliminate federal taxation of private capital, as the essential predicate for dismantling the progressive tax;

.) gradually phase out the pension-fund retirement system, starting with Social Security privatization;

.) withdraw the federal government for a direct role in housing, health care, assistance to the poor;

.) restore churches and private education by giving them public money;
(this point is similar to Hitler's position)

.) strenghten the hand of business against regulatory obligations;
(this point is similar to Hitler's position)

.) smash organized labor;
(this point is similar to Hitler's position)

.) instill fear to opposing the right-wing agenda;
(this point is similar to Hitler's and Goebbels' positions)

.) militarize U.S. by nationalizations and subsidies with public money, which makes only the U.S. military managed in a Socialist manner, everything else to be managed through fearmongering for Socialism.
(this point is similar to Hitler's position)

It's pushing for a return to McKinley Republicans, before Roosevelt's New Deal in the 1930s.

What this has in common with Mein Kampf by Hitler, is an equally driven idealogy that is loony and primitive, forcing most people's lives into miserable submission

Had I known this push for the Medieval ages that Bush II is pursuing right now, I wouldn't have made the effort to come to U.S..

I also condemn the jocksters in this thread who take Bush II lightly and for simpleton, as these jocksters being themselves brain dead about their own country.
 
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Hitler didn't like Jews either, Ion. Interesting, isn't it? Given your own statements on Jews.
 
Had I known this push for the Medieval ages that Bush II is pursuing right now, I wouldn't have made the effort to come to U.S.
:D But you are here and damn if that doesn't just make me happy.
 
I do not know how you, an otherwise intelligent person, can make this absolutely dumb threads..
I hope you are just trolling..


No -I'm serious. I hear this comparison pretty often - I didn't
make this up. And secondly - I doubt that People would even
notice if History would repeat itself ... there is no better proof
for that than the childish reactions I get in a Skeptics board. :)

Anyway: The new Book of Naomi Wolf "
End of America" talks
about this issue and she's not kidding about it. So I don't
care if I get ridiculed for even opening the Topic - but the
Issue remains:


Introduction to End of America

Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/read-the-introduction-to-_b_63779.html

Americans expect to have freedom around us just as we expect to have air to breathe, so we have only limited understanding of the furnaces of repression that the Founders knew intimately. Few of us spend much time thinking about how "the system" they put in place protects our liberties. We spend even less time, considering how dictators in the past have broken down democracies or quelled pro-democracy uprisings. We take our American liberty for granted the way we take our natural resources for granted, seeing both, rather casually, as being magically self-replenishing. We have not noticed how vulnerable either resource is until very late in the game, when systems start to falter. We have been slow to learn that liberty, like nature, demands a relationship with us in order for it to continue to sustain us....
 
Hitler didn't like Jews either, Ion. Interesting, isn't it? Given your own statements on Jews.
Which statements that I made on Jews?

Bring them on, and let's compare with Hitler's statements on Jews.

It's going to be egg on your face, Gurdur.
 
Here's more about her point:

The End of America

Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot


Recent history has profound lessons for us in the U.S. today about how fascist, totalitarian, and other repressive leaders seize and maintain power, especially in what were once democracies. The secret is that these leaders all tend to take very similar, parallel steps.

The Founders of this nation were so deeply familiar with tyranny and the habits and practices of tyrants that they set up our checks and balances precisely out of fear of what is unfolding today. We are seeing these same kinds of tactics now closing down freedoms in America, turning our nation into something that in the near future could be quite other than the open society in which we grew up and learned to love liberty...

Source: http://chelseagreen.com/2007/items/endofamerica
 
Which statements that I made on Jews?
Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.

Bring them on, and let's compare with Hitler's statements on Jews.
Why? You do it, if you're so anxious.
It's going to be egg on your face, Gurdur.

Suuuuuuuuure.

[table=head]Bush | Hitler
egg | chicken
which came first? | vs. lack of interest
fish | bicycle[/table]
 
Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.
...
OK.

That's your claim.

Now prove it.

Bring my quotes
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and

Compare with Hitler quotes on Jews.
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Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.

Why? You do it, if you're so anxious.

Suuuuuuuuure.


Here are two questions for you, "Gurdur":

A. Did the majority of Germans recognize the raise of Hitlers Power?
B. Would people be able to realize a similar raise of Power in their Democracy?

Oh, and do me the favor to take the pacifier out this time if you
have any comprehension regarding the topic. Thank you.
 
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Here are two questions to you, "Gurdur":
Tiddly om.
A. Did the majority of Germans recognize the raise of Hitlers Power?
B. Would people be able to realize a similar raise of Power in their Democracy?

Oh, and do me the favor to take the pacifier out this time if you
have any comprehension regarding the topic. Thank you. :D
* yawns *

[table=head] Hitler | Bush
had Leni Riefenstahl | has Oliver
had Goebbels | has Oliver
not too successful | not too successful
met in beer cellers | doesn't anymore[/table]
 
You got that bit right, at least. Congratulations.

[table=head]Bush | Hitler
yawn | yawn
recommends getting a clue | yawn[/table]
So there is no basis for this:
Hitler didn't like Jews either, Ion. Interesting, isn't it? Given your own statements on Jews.
only mindless parody.

Be careful to make supported statements.
 
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