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Now we are getting to the heart of the matter. And speaking of same: I have maintained (purely due to the level and style of thinking evidenced in O's posts (make that multitudinous posts)) that O had a limited capacity for full understanding of the topic he has been trying to develop due to a lack of understanding of certain important factors of America/Americans. The response to this OP verifies that perfectly. That Oliver could not foresee that response is near perfect evidence that my belief was correct.[table=head] Hitler | Bush
only had one ball | has two but very small
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A search within this Subforum didn't reveal a similar thread,
so let me ask directly - even if this Issue surfaced already in
one or the other Thread-Derail:
Probably all of you heard some people comparing the current
White House/Bush/Cheney etc. to the Nazi-Regime/Hitler - and
the similarities about how both Administrations "adjust" democratic
regulations in a way that rather limits freedoms.
Now many arguments I heard so far seem to be pretty far-fetched
or simply straightway wrong. Here are some examples for Issues
that get compared between both Administrations:
Guantanamo - Auschwitz
Patriot Act - Enabling Act
911 Attacks - Reichstag fire
Habeas corpus - Reichstag Fire Decree
Blackwater - SS
Iraq invasion - Poland invasion
Feel free to add - if you remember comparisons I forgot here...
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Just recently Colbert had an Author on his show who did write
a book about "The End of America: A Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot.":
The Colbert Report: Naomi Wolf on Fascism in America
There's also a Website that sums up some of these comparisons:
http://www.mninter.net/~hedwards/bush/hitler-bush.htm
So my question is:
From a skeptic point of view: How far-fetched are these comparisons
and which ones are realistic and indeed comparable?
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ETA: Even if it may sound like a bad joke for some people, the thread
has a serious question because Germans in the 1930's would have
laughed about such a thread as well.
And we all know what came after the laughter, don't we?
So my question is:
From a skeptic point of view: How far-fetched are these comparisons
and which ones are realistic and indeed comparable?
The book Taking Back America by Katrina van den Heuvel has a chapter titled Rolling Back the Twentieth Century, written by William Greider -who also wrote The Soul of Capitalism-.Mein Kampf by Hitler compares well with the right wing agenda that Reagan, Bush I, and -more than anyone- Bush II espouse.
More about this comparison when I get a list together, soon.
Had I known this push for the Medieval ages that Bush II is pursuing right now, I wouldn't have made the effort to come to U.S.
I do not know how you, an otherwise intelligent person, can make this absolutely dumb threads..
I hope you are just trolling..
Introduction to End of America
Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/read-the-introduction-to-_b_63779.html
Americans expect to have freedom around us just as we expect to have air to breathe, so we have only limited understanding of the furnaces of repression that the Founders knew intimately. Few of us spend much time thinking about how "the system" they put in place protects our liberties. We spend even less time, considering how dictators in the past have broken down democracies or quelled pro-democracy uprisings. We take our American liberty for granted the way we take our natural resources for granted, seeing both, rather casually, as being magically self-replenishing. We have not noticed how vulnerable either resource is until very late in the game, when systems start to falter. We have been slow to learn that liberty, like nature, demands a relationship with us in order for it to continue to sustain us....
Which statements that I made on Jews?Hitler didn't like Jews either, Ion. Interesting, isn't it? Given your own statements on Jews.
The End of America
Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot
Recent history has profound lessons for us in the U.S. today about how fascist, totalitarian, and other repressive leaders seize and maintain power, especially in what were once democracies. The secret is that these leaders all tend to take very similar, parallel steps.
The Founders of this nation were so deeply familiar with tyranny and the habits and practices of tyrants that they set up our checks and balances precisely out of fear of what is unfolding today. We are seeing these same kinds of tactics now closing down freedoms in America, turning our nation into something that in the near future could be quite other than the open society in which we grew up and learned to love liberty...
Source: http://chelseagreen.com/2007/items/endofamerica
Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.Which statements that I made on Jews?
Why? You do it, if you're so anxious.Bring them on, and let's compare with Hitler's statements on Jews.
It's going to be egg on your face, Gurdur.
OK.Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.
...
If anyone else bothered to go to the site that he suggested that we look at, can you tell me the name of the song that is playing? I can't seem to remember the name.
Compare with Hitler quotes on Jews.
Quite a lot, including you claiming to know who is a Jew and who not.
Why? You do it, if you're so anxious.
Suuuuuuuuure.
You got that bit right, at least. Congratulations.OK. That's your claim.
[table=head]Bush | HitlerNow prove it.
Tiddly om.Here are two questions to you, "Gurdur":
* yawns *A. Did the majority of Germans recognize the raise of Hitlers Power?
B. Would people be able to realize a similar raise of Power in their Democracy?
Oh, and do me the favor to take the pacifier out this time if you
have any comprehension regarding the topic. Thank you.![]()
So there is no basis for this:You got that bit right, at least. Congratulations.
[table=head]Bush | Hitler
yawn | yawn
recommends getting a clue | yawn[/table]
only mindless parody.Hitler didn't like Jews either, Ion. Interesting, isn't it? Given your own statements on Jews.