Common Sense

[Anti-sophist]

For example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a normal free-fall position with a closed parachute is about 195 km/h (120 mph or 54 m/s).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

Now you try HERE.

This is false. A skydiver at terminal velocity is not said to be experiencing freefall.

You don't understand what this word means. That is patently clear.

Consult wikipedia:free-fall, please.

 

[beachnut]

NIST says:

"Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos ..."

So while you claim... NIST is saying the upper mass feel through the impact floors at free fall... NIST is referring to the floors below i.e. lower structure - the level of collapse initiation i.e. impact floors - providing little resistance...wherein allowing the upper mass to fall at essential free fall.

yes if you do the momentum transfer to the new mass you can use a model and see you only loose a tiny amount of energy as you destroy the building below! The mass grows that is falling; and the mass moves at a new speed consistant with the overall momentum but it continues to accelerate due to gravity. NIST is not wrong. You may wish to say it different after you finish school; see you in 4 years.

 

[uk_dave]

also, he lives in arkansas, where for some reason he and his wife gave eachother ak-47s their first christmas, lol

Now that's love!

 

[beachnut]

For example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a normal free-fall position with a closed parachute is about 195 km/h (120 mph or 54 m/s).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

Now you try HERE.

Did you know that the massive objects on 9/11 did not reach their terminal velocity. The people jumping were close to terminal velocity, the paper was at terminal velocity, the dust was at terminal velocity.

The large pieces of building did not reach terminal velocity.

School is a great option.

 

[Anti-sophist]

Terminal velocity is, by and large, completely irrelevant to the discussion. His attempts to interject it underlies his complete and utter lack of knowledge of basic physics.

His continual insistence that objects at terminal velocity are in freefall underlies his completele and utter lack of scientific knowledge. In a colloquial sense, yes, they are in freefall. In a scientific sense, he is completely and utterly wrong.

This is just another case of a CTer with wikipedia and google pretending to be educated. He is being unscientific to the point of ridiculousness.

 

[beachnut]

For example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a normal free-fall position with a closed parachute is about 195 km/h (120 mph or 54 m/s).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

Now you try HERE.

You forgot to explain the parameters for you 120 mph speed; would that be true at 40,000 feet?

How did pdoh do such a good job changing his mo.

How can he stop short of going bonkers when he posts to gravy; how did he learn to be so controled? Hi pdoh. You sure are dumb; Like I said I am most likely wrong but it would be the first time. lima oscar lima

sierra hotel

 

[Anti-sophist]

A high school physics tutorial:
http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/Phys/Class/1DKin/U1L5a.html

Allow me to suggest you read it before embarassing yourself further.

A free-falling object is an object which is falling under the sole influence of gravity. That is to say that any object which is moving and being acted upon only be the force of gravity is said to be "in a state of free fall." This definition of free fall leads to two important characteristics about a free-falling object:

• Free-falling objects do not encounter air resistance.
• All free-falling objects (on Earth) accelerate downwards at a rate of approximately 10 m/s/s (to be exact, 9.8 m/s/s

 

[28th Kingdom]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads... and now it's starting to get really stale and boring.. There's just no challenge to it anymore... the only defense you people have are insults and chaotic theories which defy the laws of probability and the physical world....

I really have pity for you all... and have exercised some mercy at times - but when it comes down to me clearly proving NIST wrong... all of you are reduced to nothing more than babbling children... spouting off insults.

Remember, the major difference between truthers and deniers... is that truthers want to unite (with deniers) ... truthers want to be on the same team... truthers don't want conflict... deniers only want conflict... deniers will do anything to remain divided from truthers... And, therein lies the problem...

 

[Dog Town]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads..

You guys are as bad at comedy, as you are facts!


Priceless!

DT

 

[Paul]

Not that you'll care 28, but there are some calculations here, in section 3, which explain the differences between the expected times of free fall and the actual times of collapse.

 

[28th Kingdom]

"All free-falling objects (on Earth) accelerate downwards at a rate of approximately 10 m/s/s (to be exact, 9.8 m/s/s"

Yea they do continue to accelerate...until they reach terminal velocity at which point they cease to accelerate... Anti-sophist you are 744 484829 484 85 4 84928.

 

[Paul]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads

Are you another Mark Lewis sock?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

"All free-falling objects (on Earth) accelerate downwards at a rate of approximately 10 m/s/s (to be exact, 9.8 m/s/s"

Yea they do continue to accelerate...until they reach terminal velocity at which point they cease to accelerate... Anti-sophist you are 744 484829 484 85 4 84928.

you ignored the first line there

Free-falling objects do not encounter air resistance.
All free-falling objects (on Earth) accelerate downwards at a rate of approximately 10 m/s/s (to be exact, 9.8 m/s/s

in the absense of air resistance an object never reaches a terminal velocity

 

[Anti-sophist]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads... and now it's starting to get really stale and boring.. There's just no challenge to it anymore... the only defense you people have are insults and chaotic theories which defy the laws of probability and the physical world....

I really have pity for you all... and have exercised some mercy at times - but when it comes down to me clearly proving NIST wrong... all of you are reduced to nothing more than babbling children... spouting off insults.

Remember, the major difference between truthers and deniers... is that truthers want to unite (with deniers) ... truthers want to be on the same team... truthers don't want conflict... deniers only want conflict... deniers will do anything to remain divided from truthers... And, therein lies the problem...

Heh. I love it. Your investigoogling of the basic laws of physics have failed, so it's time to irrationally declare victory in your usual paranoid/narcissitic way.

Game. Set. Match, I guess.

If you want to learn some physics, I'm more then happy to help, kid.

 

[Anti-sophist]

"All free-falling objects (on Earth) accelerate downwards at a rate of approximately 10 m/s/s (to be exact, 9.8 m/s/s"

Yea they do continue to accelerate...until they reach terminal velocity at which point they cease to accelerate... Anti-sophist you are 744 484829 484 85 4 84928.

Objects in (true) freefall never reach terminal velocity. You are still wrong and you are embarassing yourself. Stop. I beg you.

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/Phys/Class/1DKin/U1L5a.html

Please read it. It's a high school physics tutorial and you are continuing to prove you do not understand this very basic high school physics. You are humiliating yourself.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads...

 

[beachnut]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads... and now it's starting to get really stale and boring.. There's just no challenge to it anymore... the only defense you people have are insults and chaotic theories which defy the laws of probability and the physical world....

I really have pity for you all... and have exercised some mercy at times - but when it comes down to me clearly proving NIST wrong... all of you are reduced to nothing more than babbling children... spouting off insults.

Remember, the major difference between truthers and deniers... is that truthers want to unite (with deniers) ... truthers want to be on the same team... truthers don't want conflict... deniers only want conflict... deniers will do anything to remain divided from truthers... And, therein lies the problem...

Yes your physics problem was wrong.

Insults; you have posted many.

Yes Fetzer and Dr Jones great buddies forever and ever.

That is three strikes; are you out?

 

[332nd]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads... and now it's starting to get really stale and boring.. There's just no challenge to it anymore... the only defense you people have are insults and chaotic theories which defy the laws of probability and the physical world....

I really have pity for you all... and have exercised some mercy at times - but when it comes down to me clearly proving NIST wrong... all of you are reduced to nothing more than babbling children... spouting off insults.

Remember, the major difference between truthers and deniers... is that truthers want to unite (with deniers) ... truthers want to be on the same team... truthers don't want conflict... deniers only want conflict... deniers will do anything to remain divided from truthers... And, therein lies the problem...

Yet you are the only one who had to go back and edit a post then claim people were "making up" a really stupid attempt at math.

 

[LashL]

I have dominated all of you on many different topics and in many different threads...

No, you haven't. Not even once. On any subject. Ever.

and now it's starting to get really stale and boring.. There's just no challenge to it anymore...

Oh, look, the twoofer who has proven that he has no clue about what he has tried to pass off as knowledge here is trying to feign superiority over those who exposed his lack of knowledge. Gee, colour me surprised.

the only defense you people have are insults and chaotic theories which defy the laws of probability and the physical world....

No, the derision you have received here has been fully earned by you for you constantly refuse to educate yourself. You have zero concept of the things to which you purport to have knowledge, and your only exposure to them is via Google. Your understanding of them is nil. And when those who have the requisite knowledge have kindly attempted to assist you with your extreme lack of knowledge, you simply wave your hand and continue to refuse to educate yourself.

I really have pity for you all... and have exercised some mercy at times -

BS. Complete and utter. You are a troll, plain and simple.

but when it comes down to me clearly proving NIST wrong...

In your dreams hallucinations, 28th. You can't even do a simple calculation, as has been proven time and time again here. You have no concept whatsoever about the subjects that you spout off about and you think you've proven hundreds of actual experts wrong? That is, frankly, delusional.

all of you are reduced to nothing more than babbling children... spouting off insults.

You have earned any derision sent your way by your pathetic conduct here. You are the childish one - pretending to have knowledge that you don't have, refusing to accept responsibility for your own mistakes, lying about it when you get caught, and then stamping your feet and plugging your ears.

Remember, the major difference between truthers and deniers... is that truthers want to unite (with deniers) ... truthers want to be on the same team... truthers don't want conflict... deniers only want conflict... deniers will do anything to remain divided from truthers... And, therein lies the problem...

You appear to have some serious problems with reality, 28th.

Why is it that every time you get caught exposing your ignorance on subjects that you previously pretended to have knowledge of, you resort to stupid posts like the one quoted herein, declaring "victory" for showing your ignorance?

 

[The Doc]

I have noticed a new trend today amongst truthers.

It used to be:
"I'm wrong SO YOU ARE THE NWO WTF OMFG!"

But now it's just:
"I'm wrong ALL YOU EVER DO IS INSULT ME! I AM THE WIN!"

So apparently every time a conspiracy theorist is wrong - he ignores the facts that were actually put to him and claims that the critical thinker was insulting him without presenting facts.

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