Colin Powell is an idiot!

[Jedi Knight]

Sorry, but I never thought of his musings as delusions. I've said before and I'll say it again: this board would not be nearly as much fun or as interesting without JK. I care about the guy and I sincerely want him to be happy. I know he has some out-of-the-mainstream ideas, but I don't consider him psychotic.

I am well read, well educated and warrior trained. That is one hell of a combination. Me being at this forum has increased the popularity of it at least 15,000%.

JK

 

[Aardvark_DK]

I am well read, well educated

Well read? What do you read? The backs of cereal boxes?

 

[Jedi Knight]

Well read? What do you read? The backs of cereal boxes?

I am pleased that you asked. You may not believe this, but I have a love affair for words and the English language.

Words to me are like math problems to a Ph.D in math.

JK

 

[Aardvark_DK]

I am pleased that you asked. You may not believe this, but I have a love affair for words and the English language.

Words to me are like math problems to a Ph.D in math.

Then why did you spell atheism "athiesm" for a long time? And why do you constantly refuse to tell us your sources for your various claims?

 

[RandFan]

Perhaps you could explain how "giving up" is different than "losing". America did lose. Get over it.

This is not my point and there is nothing to get over.

We won every single battle.

The American people did not have the stomach for war. Yes we lost for all intents and purposes but we did not lose as a result of any military losses.

THAT IS MY POINT.

 

[RandFan]

So you think we should have gone to war with the USSR and the PRC? Interesting.

If a governing body from Russia or China had asked us to intervene prior to the over throw of their governments, perhaps.

You don't understand the term "self-determination," even after I defined it for you. It has nothing to do with protecting the choices or property of each and every individual in a state.

I never said it did.

I believe it to be imoral for a majority to strip the civil rights of the minority. Is there something about that concept that you don't get?

By the way, where is your sentiment in protecting the "self-determination" (as you define it) of the minority of communists and socialists in this country? Should they not have the right to live in the system of their choice? If not, then explain why not!

Dumb argument Wayne. How can the desires of the few to give up civil rights fo all outweigh the rights of the majority?

Edited to add: Pointing out that Powell is a scumbag without any integrity is a judgment founded on the evidence, not an ad hominem. Calling Jeffrey Dahmer a cannibal is not an ad hominem either.

You really don't see a difference?

Come on Wayne, when one human eats another it is a demonstrabe fact that that man is a canibal.

Your views about Colin Powell are personal and subjective. He is quite frankly one of the finest men in the United States. That you don't like him is irrelevant.

 

[rikzilla]

Rik sneaks in a Dan Daily quote and no one notices!!!

shhhhhhhhhhhhh!

'sides, I thought it was a "Conan The Barbarian" quote!

 

[rikzilla]

I am well read, well educated and warrior trained. That is one hell of a combination. Me being at this forum has increased the popularity of it at least 15,000%.

JK

....and modest....don't forget that

 

[a_unique_person]

Sorry, but I never thought of his musings as delusions. I've said before and I'll say it again: this board would not be nearly as much fun or as interesting without JK. I care about the guy and I sincerely want him to be happy. I know he has some out-of-the-mainstream ideas, but I don't consider him psychotic.

but just imagine if there were two JKs down in one of those missile silos at once. one person can't turn the key, but two can.

 

[hammegk]

but just imagine if there were two JKs down in one of those missile silos at once. one person can't turn the key, but two can.

Better two of him than two of you.

At least some Aussies appear to have a pair of balls; what happened to you?

 

[Reginald]

I am well read, well educated and warrior trained. That is one hell of a combination. Me being at this forum has increased the popularity of it at least 15,000%.

JK

Surely not in the same way as the "dog faced boy" or "Bearded Lady"???

Heaven forfend!!!

 

[rikzilla]

but just imagine if there were two JKs down in one of those missile silos at once. one person can't turn the key, but two can.

AUP,

Ask Hal about that....his first real job in the AF was as a missile control officer ...before he started channelling Hamilton that is.

-z

 

[a_unique_person]

Thanz:

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Then that means you should not attack Iraq!!

If you attack Iraq it means the terrorists have won!
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Kodiak:
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What kind of logic is that?!
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Sorry Kodiak, I meant it as a joke. Y'know, like right after the attacks people were saying things about sports events and award shows - "if we don't do X (insert trivial entertainment/sports event), it means the terrorists have won!"

It seemed that the terrorists "winning" was used as an excuse for anything for a while.....

actually, there is more logic to this than might realise. As the recently released tape from Bin Laden shows, he is perfectly happy that the US is attacking Iraq, and now wants to exploit the attack to get more Muslims over to his line of thinking.

A terrorist attack is often used, not as a means of achieving a direct military objective, but to provoke a reaction. As far as Bin Laden is concerned, everything is going to plan.

 

[crackmonkey]

Everything is going to plan what?

 

[Wayne Grabert]

I'm back during a brief break.

Your views about Colin Powell are personal and subjective. He is quite frankly one of the finest men in the United States. That you don't like him is irrelevant.

It is an objective fact that Colin Powell lies. Most of what he had to say before the UN was debunked the day before by Hans Blix. The ridiculous argument that the latest bin Laden audiotape "proves" a link between Saddam and Usama is just another in a long line of lies from the scumbag you call "one of the finest men in the United States." Yeah, and Jeffrey Dahmer was just hungry.

I had some respect for Powell before he became Secretary of State. Now I see him as nothing but another unprincipled politician. I strongly suspect the only reason he ever got to be Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is that he is such a giant, shameless suck-ass. He has his tongue so far up Duh-bya's bunghole that he could tell you what Duh-bya had for dinner last night.

I first lost a great deal of respect for Colon Sucker Powell during his disgraceful "peace mission" to Israel last year. He couldn't be bothered to visit Arafat or the West Bank, but while the bulldozers were rolling he took time out for a courtesy visit to Israel's forces stationed at the Lebanese border! Sporting his biggest, ear-to-ear, sycophant smile, he clicked his heels and saluted the first IDF soldiers he saw, then lavished praise on them and their comrades mowing down Palestinians in the West Bank for their "defense of democracy." Suck-ass!

The guy has been getting undeserved credit in the media that imagine him as the "dove" and "rational one" among the Bush administration. I read that line of B.S. enough that I began to think there might be something to it, that he wasn't AS BIG an amateur as the rest of the gang of idiots, that he might have some moderating influence, but I never saw the evidence for that wishful thinking on the part of all the pundits. They were just giving him a free ride because they figured, well, he's a black guy who rose to such prominence in Republican administrations, he must have something going for him. Yeah, he could stick his tongue deeper into any orifice that mattered. That's the only thing that makes sense to me, and I've been wondering about it a long time.

Norman Schwarzkopf, the general who actually won the Gulf War, is at odds with Colon, Rummy, Dick, Condi and Duh-bya over war with Iraq, diplomatically saying he has "reservations" against starting that war. So do many other prominent retired generals, such as Anthony Zenni and Brent Scowcroft. However, Colon has sold out.

How do you justify calling him "one of the finest men in the United States"? He's a liar, and not about trivial things.

Edited to add: More proof that Powell is a liar.

The statement did not express support for Iraqi President Saddam Hussein -- it said Muslims should support the Iraqi people rather than the country's government.

"The fighting should be in the name of God only, not in the name of national ideologies, nor to seek victory for the ignorant governments that rule all Arab states, including Iraq," the statement said.

Yet I am supposed to believe Colon's (sic) droppings of ◊◊◊◊ that Saddam and Usama are in league together?

 

[a_unique_person]

Everything is going to plan what?

plan lets all have a big, bloody war.

 

[Richard G]

It is an objective fact that Colin Powell lies. Most of what he had to say before the UN was debunked the day before by Hans Blix.

Do you sincerely believe what Mr. Blix knows, and can say, compares to the what Powell knows via the inteligence aparatus of the USA?

Mr. Blix himself was enlightened, and in fact changed his entire demeanor after hearing [and seeing] Powells inteligence briefing.

What was presented before the U.N. was only a very small sample of inteligence that the CIA has accumulated. I'm very sorry that we will not admit you, and the entire world to our top secret briefings. By your attitude, you would most likely sell us out to the top bidder.

I too must add that Mr. Powell is one of the finest men to serve the USA.

 

[Wayne Grabert]

Do you sincerely believe what Mr. Blix knows, and can say, compares to the what Powell knows via the inteligence aparatus of the USA?

Colon (sic) Powell is a proven liar. I don't believe anything he says. The Bush administration has no credibility. It has wanted war with Iraq for ulterior motvies and has been trying to find a pretext.

What was presented before the U.N. was only a very small sample of inteligence that the CIA has accumulated. I'm very sorry that we will not admit you, and the entire world to our top secret briefings. By your attitude, you would most likely sell us out to the top bidder.

So, first of all, Dick, you are claiming that you are a member of the CIA and are privy to all its top secret briefings. I don't believe you.

Secondly, by your attitude I can conclude that you are just another small minded, dull witted, conservative a**hole! "Look, someone is disagreeing with our Republican president. He must be unpatriotic and a subversive--a communist!" It's sh*theads like you the country can do without. Hey, John Ashcroft wants YOU! So drop your pants and bend over.

I too must add that Mr. Powell is one of the finest men to serve the USA.

Based on what????????? Have you sucked his dick? Is that what you're basing it on? Listen, dimwit, declaring something to be true doesn't make it so. I've stated my reasons why Colon is a scumbag. No one--no one!--has yet to give ONE reason why he is such a "fine man." Are you saying that meaning you'd like to sleep with him? I think so.

"You'd sell us out to the highest bidder." What a stupid jerk you are. You can't refute anything I say, so you attack me personally. Well, I can dish it out too, you sh*teating prick!

 

[Jedi Knight]

Wayne, I take it that you are against the pending war in Iraq. I have never seen you get so upset before in a thread. The only time people get upset like that is when their core beliefs are violated.

Why do you think the United States should not invade Iraq?

JK

 

[Wayne Grabert]

Wayne, I take it that you are against the pending war in Iraq. I have never seen you get so upset before in a thread. The only time people get upset like that is when their core beliefs are violated.

Why do you think the United States should not invade Iraq?

JK

You're right, my perceptive friend. As you know, I am tolerant of opposing opinions, but my tolerance of personal attacks has dropped to zero, especially when people accuse me of such things as "being a sunshine patriot" or wishing disaster on the country and success for al Qaida or being willing to sell out the country to the highest bidder, etc. How would you feel if someone accused you of being a communist or another Jonathan Pollard?

Why do I think the US should not invade Iraq? Well, I've been arguing those reasons here for the last several months. In brief, we shouldn't because it isn't necessary and it will only increase our problems. It'll be a huge drain on our treasury, it will compromise our ability to respond to real threats, it will not only divert us from stabilizing Afghanistan and fighting terrorism, it'll strengthen al Qaida and make us more vulnerable to terrorism. It also will put the world on notice that the US is an aggressive tyrant bent on world hegemony rather than being a promoter of peace and respect for international law. Other nations will see us as an untrustworthy bully and will be less likely to cooperate with us and will instead work against our interests.

Here's something ironic, if you consider why NATO was formed. I see the possibility that the US will break away from NATO and Europe will form a defense alliance that includes Russia!

Edited to add: Jedi, have you seen this magazine yet? You might like it. I have heard about it, but haven't picked up an issue yet.