Merged Cold Fusion Claims

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I tried to slog through some of the links.The normal alarms went off for me.
Saddest was the free-energy/conspiracy place.
Big oil is suppressing the truth; things got lost; inventors must protect themselves from unscrupulous rip-off artists; etc; etc.

Much wide-eyed (uncritical) enthusiasm from those that want to believe; sooo badly do they want; need to believe.

Anyway, there's evidently 97 of these 'reactors' in use; one has been running for years.
I got exhausted trying to hone in on any evidence
If there is anything to it, which I seriously doubt, than its a pity that it needs to be mixed in with the usual run-of-the-mill over-unity woo-plah.

I would love to be wrong about this.
But I'm not.
 
If it is a hoax, a new theory about how it works has appeared on a (pro-Rossi) blog http://nickelpower.org/page-2/ Post by bsmcconnell July 9, 2011:
It’s a hoax. He’s probably feeding high concentration hydrogen peroxide into the reactor, which is filled with a metal catalyst. It flashes to steam and oxygen at high enough concentration. With an energy density of 1.5MJ/kg at 70% concentration, it would run indefinitely and throw off lots of heat. The electrical heater is probably just for show.
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Any comments on this hypothesis? I think it's a new one.
 
Craig B said:
If it is a hoax, a new theory about how it works has appeared on a (pro-Rossi) blog http://nickelpower.org/page-2/ Post by bsmcconnell July 9, 2011: Any comments on this hypothesis? I think it's a new one.
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The smell of water peroxyde is quite easy to recognize at high concentration. And as far as i remember the liquid is emptied in a bucket. I don't think it would be easy to hide the smell.

Much easier is to think that the catalyst is irrelevant, the two heater provide the energy, and nothing much happens, maybe some oxy-red involving Cu and Ni and either a scam or huge error on heat measurement. After all the spurting of steam Rossi has shown, does not seem to correspond in any way shape or form to 2 g water per seconds, but rather 1/6 of that, and that again would be then easily explainable with the heaters alone.

And to boot it is a much simpler explanation.
 
Aepervius said:
The smell of water peroxyde is quite easy to recognize at high concentration. And as far as i remember the liquid is emptied in a bucket. I don't think it would be easy to hide the smell.
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They've also run tests using the municipal water supply, or at least the supply within a university. The problem with trying to run the scam this way is that it's just too difficult. Manipulating equipment that you have total control over is one thing, but if you rely on being about to control major external factors as well it's just too easy for a scam to be exposed, even accidentally. Concentrated peroxide is also fairly nasty stuff, and I doubt Rossi would want to have his scam shut down because someone got too close to the pipe and inhaled some, or if the whole thing just blew up.
 
Aepervius said:
What's funny is that there did not seem to be a lot of traffic. The number of "written" post was quite low. CAn't say for the number of "reading"/"lurker" though.
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If you go directly to main forum page defkalion-energy.com/forum/index.php, there is counter on the bottom of that page. It says that max number of users ever on the forum was stunning 64. ;)
 
More news. The pro-Rossi E-Cat Report http://ecatreport.com/rossi/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-12 has informed readers that
Rossi went to Uppsala, Sweden the 4th to 5th of July 2011 in order to enter an agreement with Uppsala University enabling them to do research on the physics behind the E-Cat. Because nothing has been signed yet, he cannot reveal any details of the content other than both Sven Kullander and Hanno Essén belong to the small group of researchers selected and trusted to perform research on the E-Cat.
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The indefatigable Steve Krivit has investigated this, and writes in http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/07/12/uppsala-university-denies-rossi-research-agreement/ that Uppsala University denies the existence of any such agreement.
New Energy Times contacted Senior Press Officer Anneli Waara of Uppsala University today in an attempt to confirm the story. ... “According to Professor Kullander, there is no such agreement or preparing for an agreement as suggested by that information,” Waara wrote.
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But read with absolute literalness, Rossi's statement is entirely void of information, although the casual or naive reader might think otherwise.

"went to Uppsala in order to ... ", but perhaps in the event went to the zoo instead?
"nothing has been signed yet", perhaps because he never got to discuss any research with anybody there at all?
"Sven Kullander and Hanno Essén belong to the small group of researchers selected and trusted to perform research on the E-Cat". Selected and trusted by whom? Uppsala University? Rossi doesn't say.
 
Craig B said:
More news. The pro-Rossi E-Cat Report http://ecatreport.com/rossi/andrea-rossi-on-the-e-cat-part-12
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It looks like Rossi told them a verifiable lie right here:

"The post-reaction analysis shows a copper isotope ratio of Cu 63/Cu 65 ~ 1.6, while the natural occurrence show a ratio of Cu 63/Cu 65 ~ 2.24 which is a statistically significant difference. "

However the one and only independent published test result on the isotopic composition published by Kullander and Essen states this:

"Both measurements show that the pure nickel powder contains mainly
nickel, and the used powder is different in that several elements are present,
mainly 10 percent copper and 11 percent iron. The isotopic analysis through
ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation
from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper."

This finding is so well known (hundreds of hits to this phrase just
in forums) that it is amazing the guys from ecat
report never heard of it...

Regards,
Yevgen
 
OK, does this make sense to anyone, or is this just more load from the land of woo?

http://pesn.com/2011/07/14/9501869_EV-World_Interviews_Andrea_Rossi/

Master Scammer Rossi said:
To make it extremely simple, what happens is that nickel has a particularity that protons spread from it's surface with extreme efficiency. And very close to the nucleus, even if repelled by the so called coulomb barrier forces. And when we in the reactor inject the hydrogen the protons of hydrogen at high pressures and temperatures, will go pretty close to the nucleus of the nickel. And at those points, we have nuclear effects that produce gamma rays which add more energy and using a particular system to increase the pressure arriving to extremely high pressures... similar to ones that happen to be in the White Dwarf stars. In those situations, is possible that physically that so called Gamow Factor which is a probabilistic calculation of the coulomb repelling forces is overcame, and at that point enough energy is produced to make it worth to be recorded.
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With regard to "cold fusion" - are white dwarfs a) cold, b) sites of fusion? Can anyone help with this? Other elements of the interview worthy of comment may be:
H - ... I believe Andrea you are in Bologna. Is this correct?
A - No, I am in Miami, Florida.
H - You are in Miami! Oh my goodness. Alright!
A- Yes, because in Miami we have a factory where we are preparing the reactors that will be the modules of the one megawatt plant that we are preparing for Defkalion in Greece, that will go into operation in October.
H - Excellent, this is going faster than I expected it to. So first of all, welcome to the United States and to Miami.
A - Actually, I reside in Miami.
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And I built a boiler that has heated my factory which was in a small town of Italy which is Fariera, just in the outskirts of Ferrari, in North East Italy. This boiler has heated my factory for about one year, and so we made experiments in an actual working reactor. Of course, for many years I made a lot of smaller units. They have been used, destroyed, and so on.
...
H - This process as I understand it... well, you said that you have a boiler that has been running for at least a year now?
A - It has worked at least one year, when I was there. Now we no longer have the factory.
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So where is this miracle-working boiler now? Casually "used, destroyed, and so on" like the "smaller units", no doubt.
I had to sell everything to finance this. Now we have here in the United States. Here in Florida, the place where we make the reactors, and in Greece they are making huge production lines for the production of these products in Europe.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2749931/posts
As has been pointed out numerous times on this blog, the dryness of the
steam/water vapur is abolutely crucial to the viability of the e-cat.

Imagine my astonishment and disappointment on finding that Rossi makes no
attempt to monitor the dryness of the output and there was no appropiate
equipment visible on the premises.

It follows that Rossi can not possibly know whether he has 1,2 5 or even 10 percent
unvaporized phase by weight. Passive observers like myself, Krivit, Essen &
Kullander have even less chance of determining this crucial parameter.

Even worse, since the output tube went straight through a hole in the wall to
be vented/flushed outside, it could have been pure hot water and nobody, least
of all Rossi, could possibly know.

Basically, the whole set up defies even approximate quantitative calorimetric
analysis.
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The final clincher for me is that Rossi made a point of telling me that he was currently vaporizing 15 litres / hour.
BUT, the peristaltic pump was exactly the same one he uses in all demonstrations and it was pulsing about once every 2.5 seconds.
I make that 3 litres / hour, only 20 percent of what Rossi told me verbally.

And yet this small flow was being shared amongst 4 e-cat modules. That isnt much of a stress test is it ?
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Also here:
http://ecatnews.com/?p=489#comment-70
 
the mistery is over: Guglinski predicted correctly the element of Rossi's catalyzer

Guglinski predicted correctly in his paper ”How repulsive gravity contributes for cold fusion in Rossi-Focardi experiment” the element used in the Andrea Rossi's catalyzer.
That's why Rossi decided do not publish the paper.


See the dialog between Guglinski and Andrea Rossi in the blog Journal of Nuclear Physics, between 14th and 16th July:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=462#comments
 
pedrone said:
Guglinski predicted correctly in his paper ”How repulsive gravity contributes for cold fusion in Rossi-Focardi experiment” the element used in the Andrea Rossi's catalyzer.
That's why Rossi decided do not publish the paper.


See the dialog between Guglinski and Andrea Rossi in the blog Journal of Nuclear Physics, between 14th and 16th July:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=462#comments
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Several comments:

1) If it turns out that this apparatus actually works, this is yet more evidence that Rossi has deliberately concealed an essential element of his invention, which in and of itself is sufficient reason to invalidate his patent application.

2) If, as is far more likely, this is all a scam, of course he doesn't want to publish (and endorse the findings of) something that "reveals" the catalyst, as that would allow real researchers to run their own experiments showing that it doesn't work. So long as the catalyst was unidentified, he could wave away any negative results by claiming they used the wrong catalyst material.

3) It's carbon, according to some other sites I found while looking into this, in case anyone wants to get started on point #2 above :D
 
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