Ed Clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham Part 3

[wareyin]

So Faux News reports that Clinton obsessed "nonprofit legal watchdog group", which has such a limited grasp of the law that the majority of it's nuisance lawsuits have been dismissed, claims to be more aware of what is classified than the intelligence agencies which reviewed and declined to pursue legal action over them?

And this is news?

 

[The Big Dog]

Hillary spewing excuses for her reprehensible email conduct (which every day shows more and more just how clearly it violated the law) is the Streisand effect, in other words, by opening up her mouth she only draws more attention to it. Case in point, sending classified data to one of her husband's lackeys, as so ably shown by the heroes at Judicial watch.

By the way, here is a copy of the Order that Judicial Watch obtained in litigation that allows us to see those documents.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/JW-v-State-Jan-11-order-00684.pdf

Good job judicial watch!

 

[logger]

A nonprofit legal watchdog claimed Thursday that newly unearthed documents show Hillary Clinton sent and received more classified information on her private server than previously known, and that the papers also show top aide Huma Abedin did favors for Clinton Foundation insiders.

The transparency heroes at Judicial watch continue to fight for your right to know.

Good stuff.

Its a massive coverup, when you have the corrupt FBI director saying he doesn't think any prosecutor would be interested in this, red flag everywhere go up.

 

[wareyin]

Did Judicial Watch obtain any emails that were not reviewed by the FBI? No? Then those emails were already reviewed, and contrary to the claims made by a group founded by, and on, hatred of all things Clinton, they have nothing new. It's just a pathetic attempt to get their name in the news, and gullible organizations like Faux News lap that crap up.

 

[The Big Dog]

Did Judicial Watch obtain any emails that were not reviewed by the FBI? No? Then those emails were already reviewed, and contrary to the claims made by a group founded by, and on, hatred of all things Clinton, they have nothing new. It's just a pathetic attempt to get their name in the news, and gullible organizations like Faux News lap that crap up.

Just to clarify, as you appear to be suffering under misinformation, the American public has never seen these documents before.

Because of Judicial watch's efforts we are seeing in public for the first time documents that Clinton willfully withheld from production to numerous FOIA requests, requests issued not only by JW, but also Vox, Jason Leopold and other organizations.

As such, you will forgive me for pointing out that I am not impressed with rather emotional ad hominem fallacies, and grossly unoriginal juvenelia like "Faux News"

 

[wareyin]

Just to clarify, as you appear to be suffering under misinformation, the American public has never seen these documents before.

Because of Judicial watch's efforts we are seeing in public for the first time documents that Clinton willfully withheld from production to numerous FOIA requests, requests issued not only by JW, but also Vox, Jason Leopold and other organizations.

As such, you will forgive me for pointing out that I am not impressed with rather emotional ad hominem fallacies, and grossly unoriginal juvenelia like "Faux News"

Your claim, as originally stated, was that Judicial Watch had found more classified information than was previously known. In the real world, however, all information that Judicial Watch "found" had already been reviewed by the FBI, and therefore no new classified info was found. Contrary to your laughably incorrect ideas, the American public is not the arbiter of what is or is not classified.

 

[The Big Dog]

Hooked up

Thanks to Judicial Watch, we are seeing the depth of the betrayal here:

From: Rina Kirshner

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:29 AM

To: Huma Abedin

Subject: Re: Eddie Trump/Doug Band

Ms. Abedin,

Just wanted to follow up and express our gratitude. I was contacted today by Ms. Christina Miner who invited us to be part of the US-Russia Cultural Sub-Working Group meeting next week. Thank you very much for all your assistance – if there is any way we can be of assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Rina Kirshner

From: Huma Abedin [[email protected]]

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:19:12

To: Doug Band

Subject: FW: Eddie Trump/Doug Band

fyi – we hooked her up with the right people here

Doug Band worked for the Clinton Family Foundation, and was supposed to have nothing to do with State business, and now we know they lied.

Thanks Judicial Watch!

 

[The Big Dog]

Your claim, as originally stated, was that Judicial Watch had found more classified information than was previously known. In the real world, however, all information that Judicial Watch "found" had already been reviewed by the FBI, and therefore no new classified info was found. Contrary to your laughably incorrect ideas, the American public is not the arbiter of what is or is not classified.

That is of course, false, on numerous levels.

the most basic level is that the documents that Judicial Watch are releasing have been confirmed as containing classified information, stamped as such, and redacted.

here is an example:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...ate-Huma-production-17-00684-pg-1244-1246.pdf

Do you see that classified stamp on it?

The American public is seeing for the first time more confirmation that Clinton improperly mishandled classified data.

 

[wareyin]

That is of course, false, on numerous levels.

It is nice to see your admission that your claim that Judicial Watch found new class is false. The 'on numerous levels' bit gives me hope that you may yet learn to apply skepticism towards claims by Faux News and Judicial Watch, yet!

 

[The Big Dog]

It is nice to see your admission that your claim that Judicial Watch found new class is false. The 'on numerous levels' bit gives me hope that you may yet learn to apply skepticism towards claims by Faux News and Judicial Watch, yet!

Please do not misrepresent my post.

By the way, I never used the word "found," that is yet another frivolous strawman intentionally generated to mislead.

Judicial Watch released these newly produced documents confirming the fact that Clinton mishandled classified data. I understand that people are frustrated by these facts, but facts they are.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Judicial Watch is nothing but a right wing propaganda 'tank'.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

That is of course, false, on numerous levels.

the most basic level is that the documents that Judicial Watch are releasing have been confirmed as containing classified information, stamped as such, and redacted.

here is an example:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...ate-Huma-production-17-00684-pg-1244-1246.pdf

Do you see that classified stamp on it?

The American public is seeing for the first time more confirmation that Clinton improperly mishandled classified data.

You mean that part where it had no markings, and was retroactively stamped classified half a decade after the fact.

Yes, I see it. what about it ?

 

[The Big Dog]

Oh well, Judicial Watch gets an order compelling the State Department to turn over for publication emails that Clinton and her cohorts tried to bury. Judicial Watch published those email to the public for the first time. Those emails show unmistakable evidence that Clinton was improperly handling classified data.

And we learn on a site for skeptics that Judicial Watch are the bad guys here.

Oh well....

 

[The Big Dog]

You mean that part where it had no markings, and was retroactively stamped classified half a decade after the fact.

Yes, I see it. what about it ?

Correct, although Clinton and her cowboy sever routinely handled classified data, she failed to properly designate them as classified.

We all know of course that the failure to mark the documents as classified does not at all mean that they did not contain classified data, of course, rather it means that Clinton and her staff mishandled the classified data.

here's an article for you to help understand:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432489/hillary-no-classified-markings-makes-things-worse

 

[wareyin]

Your "alternative facts" are showing, TBD. We have learned that Judicial Watch is presenting already known emails as new, as well as misrepresenting retroactively classified information as having been mishandled. We've also learned that gullible rubes (like Faux News and others) will then spread that manure around, hoping to grow an indictment out of it.

Wipe off your shoes. The crap Faux News and Judicial watch is spreading is on over-farmed ground, nothing will grow there.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Oh well, Judicial Watch gets an order compelling the State Department to turn over for publication emails that Clinton and her cohorts tried to bury. Judicial Watch published those email to the public for the first time. Those emails show unmistakable evidence that Clinton was improperly handling classified data.

And we learn on a site for skeptics that Judicial Watch are the bad guys here.

Oh well....

No one claimed "Judicial Watch are the bad guys here." , that is yet another frivolous strawman intentionally generated to mislead.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Correct, although Clinton and her cowboy sever routinely handled classified data, she failed to properly designate them as classified.

We all know of course that the failure to mark the documents as classified does not at all mean that they did not contain classified data, of course, rather it means that Clinton and her staff mishandled the classified data.

here's an article for you to help understand:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432489/hillary-no-classified-markings-makes-things-worse

Certainly if Clinton and her staff illegally mishandled the classified data, they will be appropriately charged.

I'll be over here waiting for you to let me know when if that happens...

 

[Roger Ramjets]

yet another frivolous strawman intentionally generated to mislead.

Sums up the entire thread.

But hey, it helped get us Trump - so it's all good!

 

[The Big Dog]

Already "known.'

Known to who folks? Well people in the government of course, and by golly those rascals at judicial watch having the arrogance to publish them on the internet for everyone to see.

Hey, the government knew about them, and that should be good enough.

Huma doing favors for Clinton family Foundation donors, hooking them up with the right people, in violation of the agreements signed by Clinton, her staff and the CFF?

You can be sure that the government had 'top people' on it. TOP PEOPLE.

You literally have nothing to worry about, these emails were "known."

faux News should "know" better, the government "knew" about these emails already.

Faux News people, do you get it. (talk about something that is not "new" huh? lol)

Don't worry about looking at these emails, folks, i read it on a site for skeptics.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

No one claimed "Judicial Watch are the bad guys here." , that is yet another frivolous strawman intentionally generated to mislead.

They are indeed bad guys, they are funded by right wing billionaires like the Scaife family, similar to the Kochs, with the sole purpose of creating negative propaganda about Democrats. They were formed and started with Bill Clinton. They are not an honest think tank.