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Ed Clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham Part 3

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Yeah, thinking Abedin or her boss might be willing bend the rules on handling sensitive information for the sake of convenience, that's just crazy talk.
 
Maybe this will be the time the rumors finally turn out to be true!

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Yeah, thinking Abedin or her boss might be willing bend the rules on handling sensitive information for the sake of convenience, that's just crazy talk.

I think it's more that thinking this time FOX News isn't lying to you, not like all those other times it said the exact same thing but was lying, that's the crazy talk. But hey, some people learn from experience, and some just keep swallowing what FOX vomits up!
 
I think it's more that thinking this time FOX News isn't lying to you, not like all those other times it said the exact same thing but was lying, that's the crazy talk. But hey, some people learn from experience, and some just keep swallowing what FOX vomits up!


The Fox News / consophere are perpetually the boys who cry Wolf
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No, really WOLF! this time.

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ad nauseum...

Isn't it normal to provide a source debunking what you believe to be false claims?

Anyhow. Your first link says FBI agents investigating Clinton were made to sign nondisclosure agreements, they were.

I'm not sure why you posted the second link. Guccifer claims he hacked Clinton's account, she reported it.

Your third link says FBI agents expanded their investigation to include the Clinton foundation, according to CNN, they tried but were shut down by the DOJ.
 
Isn't it normal to provide a source debunking what you believe to be false claims?

Anyhow. Your first link says FBI agents investigating Clinton were made to sign nondisclosure agreements, they were.

I'm not sure why you posted the second link. Guccifer claims he hacked Clinton's account, she reported it.

Your third link says FBI agents expanded their investigation to include the Clinton foundation, according to CNN, they tried but were shut down by the DOJ.

It's the single/anonymous sourced claims that are proudly trumpeted as "TRUTH"

There were not 150 agents working on the case, there were 10.
No one believed guccifer hacked Clinton, and it turns out he didnt.
The claim was the FBI investigation was focused on the Clinton foundation, it was not, it was all about her email.

The links are all in the thread.

As I said before, it's more work than I care to expend for no return. If you want to believe Herridge has a track record of being right on this email investigation, and I'm wrong, be my guest. *shrugs*

How do you feel about Bret Baier/Lou Dobbs ? LOLZ
 
Someone remind me, before Clinton got caught with her pants on fire claiming she only ever used one device, what was her go to justification back then? I think the word starts with "con ..."

And what was it Abedin said after her initial, "Golly, I don't have any idea how all those State Department emails ended up on my wacky husband's laptop"? Something about not knowing how to operate her work printer so she just sent everything to her Yahoo account even after she was warned it may have been hacked.

But, yeah, the idea that Abedin or her boss might be willing to bend the rules on handling sensitive information for the sake of "convenience," that's just crazy talk.

As someone who knows very little about computer tech, it's amazing to me to realize that I've probably been exercising more care with our relatively unimportant work information than some of the people at the highest levels of government handle our nation's secrets. But I guess the rules are just different for them.
 
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Someone remind me, before Clinton got caught with her pants on fire claiming she only ever used one device, what was her go to justification back then? I think the word starts with "con ..."

Hillary didn't claim that she only ever used one device. She claimed she wanted to carry just one device but still receive personal email. Over time, she went through multiple devices, but my understanding is that the FBI report indicated she did not use more than one device at a time.

And what was it Abedin said after her initial, "Golly, I don't have any idea how all those State Department emails ended up on my wacky husband's laptop"? Something about not knowing how to operate her work printer so she just sent everything to her Yahoo account even after she was warned it may have been hacked.

The vast majority of classified/sensitive information was typically never sent through email in the first place. Clinton's top aides compiled paper-copy reports that Clinton read. And they discussed most details in person.

The fact that independent analysis by the FBI indicated only about 50 classified emails or so out of about 30,000 is strong evidence that Hillary and her aides used Hillary's private emails server for non-classified email. The extremely small proportion of emails that independent analysis interpreted as classified strongly indicates that Hillary and her aides took the non-classification-use nature of her server seriously. Remember, these are top folks at the State Department. They know a thing or two about classification. Given the subjective nature of classification, the known problem of over classification, the fact that top State Department officials are likely some of our nation's top experts in classification, and the fact that independent analysis by the FBI interpreted about 0.001% of Hillary's emails as being classified, I'm not sure how an honest assessment could conclude anything other than that these FBI-interpreted emails were probably simply not interpreted as classified by Hillary's aides, which strongly indicates they did not contain anything very sensitive at all.

With that view, please reconsider Abedin's forwarding of non-classified emails from a private server that was not cleared for classified information to a personal email account. I think if you honestly consider all the information, this is a yawn at best.

And if it still bugs you, fine. But you better drag Colin Powell's ass way further into this mess, as he described using a secret, personal address for official use, and did not CC any State Department addresses to intentionally prevent his emails from being captured by the State Department.

But, yeah, the idea that Abedin or her boss might be willing to bend the rules on handling sensitive information for the sake of "convenience," that's just crazy talk.

Could be. But I don't rely on "could be." I rely on evidence. And so should you. And the evidence here strongly indicates that Hillary and her aides took the non-classified nature of Hillary's private server seriously.

As someone who knows very little about computer tech, it's amazing to me to realize that I've probably been exercising more care with our relatively unimportant work information than some of the people at the highest levels of government handle our nation's secrets. But I guess the rules are just different for them.

Or your understanding is just incorrect.
 
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Over time, she went through multiple devices ..."


Ha. "Went through multiple devices." I like that. I'm sure if the average mid-level government guy, or my friend in the Foreign Service, told his boss that he'd lost a dozen or so devices containing potentially sensitive information, they'd totally understand. Just out of curiosity, though, how many devices would she have to lose ... Oh sorry ... I mean "go through" before Clinton supporters could actually bring themselves to admit "OK, now that's 'gross negligence'"?


The fact that independent analysis by the FBI indicated only about 50 classified emails or so out of about 30,000 is strong evidence that Hillary and her aides used Hillary's private emails server for non-classified email.


Except for all the times they didn't. Feel free to remind me, how many times one is allowed to negligently mishandle classified information? If the answer is "never," then another way to phrase your statement above is "There is strong evidence Hillary and her aides only committed 50 felonies."

And if it still bugs you, fine. But you better drag Colin Powell's ass way further into this mess, as he described using a secret, personal address for official use, and did not CC any State Department addresses to intentionally prevent his emails from being captured by the State Department.


Yes, it still bugs me. If Colin Powell sent classified information to an unsecure, private server, I'd say he should be prosecuted, too.

Enough of this special treatment for the politically connected bull----.

Bill Clinton meeting the Attorney General during the ongoing investigation, the FBI letting subjects of the investigation sit in on each other's interviews, agreeing in advance to destroy evidence, and passing out immunity deals like candy for absolutely nothing in return. If anyone thinks that's how things work for the average, non-politically connected folks out there, I've got a bridge I'd like to show you.
 
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Someone remind me, before Clinton got caught with her pants on fire claiming she only ever used one device, what was her go to justification back then? I think the word starts with "con ..."

And what was it Abedin said after her initial, "Golly, I don't have any idea how all those State Department emails ended up on my wacky husband's laptop"? Something about not knowing how to operate her work printer so she just sent everything to her Yahoo account even after she was warned it may have been hacked.

But, yeah, the idea that Abedin or her boss might be willing to bend the rules on handling sensitive information for the sake of "convenience," that's just crazy talk.

As someone who knows very little about computer tech, it's amazing to me to realize that I've probably been exercising more care with our relatively unimportant work information than some of the people at the highest levels of government handle our nation's secrets. But I guess the rules are just different for them.

Someone remind me, how long have you been participating in this thread, yet you still don't know the basic facts ?

Sad.
 
Early in 2001 an FBI agent attending an FBI meeting in a hotel conference room got a phone call. He stepped out of the room to get better reception and returned a few minutes later to find his briefcase had been taken. When it was found later the FBI discovered that the briefcase contained highly classified documents, a clear violation of FBI rules. A source inside the FBI leaked details of this incident to the New York Times. The FBI agent was forced to retsign for violating the rules on handling classified data.

This agent forced to resign was John P O'Neill, the nation's top expert investigating Al Qaeda.
 
Enough of this special treatment for the politically connected bull----.

Bill Clinton meeting the Attorney General during the ongoing investigation, the FBI letting subjects of the investigation sit in on each other's interviews, agreeing in advance to destroy evidence, and passing out immunity deals like candy for absolutely nothing in return. If anyone thinks that's how things work for the average, non-politically connected folks out there, I've got a bridge I'd like to show you.

Look, it's her turn.

Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you.
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Early in 2001 an FBI agent attending an FBI meeting in a hotel conference room got a phone call. He stepped out of the room to get better reception and returned a few minutes later to find his briefcase had been taken. When it was found later the FBI discovered that the briefcase contained highly classified documents, a clear violation of FBI rules. A source inside the FBI leaked details of this incident to the New York Times. The FBI agent was forced to retsign for violating the rules on handling classified data.

This agent forced to resign was John P O'Neill, the nation's top expert investigating Al Qaeda.

And a dude who was convinced that 9/11 was coming. This error on his part was used to push him out for political reasons, at least according to many who knew him. And pushing him out stalled his research, which potentially could have been used to prevent 9/11. He was working security in the Twin Towers on 9/11. He didn't make it. He was killed in the attack.
 
Isn't it normal to provide a source debunking what you believe to be false claims?

Anyhow. Your first link says FBI agents investigating Clinton were made to sign nondisclosure agreements, they were.

I'm not sure why you posted the second link. Guccifer claims he hacked Clinton's account, she reported it.

Your third link says FBI agents expanded their investigation to include the Clinton foundation, according to CNN, they tried but were shut down by the DOJ.

You might want to look for some more recent information.

Media refutes Fox News claim about possible Clinton Foundation 'indictment' The investigation was based on the debunked book, Clinton Cash. There was no evidence to be had.

Guccifer never produced any evidence he hacked Clinton's server. You are confusing the DNC hack that had some Clinton Foundation information in it.

No one in the DOJ shut anything down. No quid pro quo could be found.
 
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Early in 2001 an FBI agent attending an FBI meeting in a hotel conference room got a phone call. He stepped out of the room to get better reception and returned a few minutes later to find his briefcase had been taken. When it was found later the FBI discovered that the briefcase contained highly classified documents, a clear violation of FBI rules. A source inside the FBI leaked details of this incident to the New York Times. The FBI agent was forced to retsign for violating the rules on handling classified data.

This agent forced to resign was John P O'Neill, the nation's top expert investigating Al Qaeda.

Not according to this Wiki source:
When O'Neill heard of upcoming leaks to the New York Times about the May 2000 incident in which his briefcase had been stolen, he decided to retire in favor of a higher-paying job in the private sector, as chief of security at the World Trade Center.[3]...[Wright, Lawrence (January 14, 2002). "The Counter-Terrorist". New Yorker. Retrieved May 12, 2015.]

Sounds more like he was embarrassed a year later as opposed to being forced to resign when it happened.
 
If only Bush had allowed him to stay in a few more weeks, surely 9/11 would have been averted!
 
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