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Ed Cleo Smith

I think it might be her natural father. If she’s healthy and well, I think the odds are she knew her abductor.
 
mgidm86 said:
I'm so glad I grew up when I did, back in the dangerous days of sleeping in a tent ten feet from my parents. Actually us kids usually slept outside under the stars, weather permitting. It would suck to be a kid now.
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I was gonna say, what the hell is wrong with 12 year olds in NZ?
 
Police are now saying “no family connection” so it will be fascinating to know who and why.
 
Amazing, and very good news. I think almost everyone was expecting her to be dead by now.

Makes the case more bizarre than it already was.
 
arthwollipot said:
Yesterday I saw the phrase "opportunistic abductor", which suggests that this may be someone who said "Hey, a kid. I'll take that."
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There are an amazing number of people in this world who act compulsively and are completely incapable of considering the possible consequences of their actions.

Thank goodness he didn't abduct her to harm her. Sounds like he might have serious mental health issues.
 
shemp said:
There are an amazing number of people in this world who act compulsively and are completely incapable of considering the possible consequences of their actions.

Thank goodness he didn't abduct her to harm her. Sounds like he might have serious mental health issues.
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Yeah, possibly. If that phrase I saw in one report still applies. We don't know who or why yet, only that there was no familial connection.
 
shemp said:
There are an amazing number of people in this world who act compulsively and are completely incapable of considering the possible consequences of their actions.

Thank goodness he didn't abduct her to harm her. Sounds like he might have serious mental health issues.
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At least some detailed planning had to go into it though.He would have had to watch the family and see which tent they were in. it's too much to believe that he just randomly walked into a tent and took the kid.

But I'm certain you are right about mental issues. I expect him being found unfit to plead (and be sentenced to a secure health facility).
 
Wait...where is this information coming from about the man having "mental health issues" or suggesting that he might be "unfit to plead"? None of the reports I've seen gives any such details about the alleged abductor.

"Opportunistic abductor" to me says the person had a pre-existing desire to kidnap a child and took advantage when presented with a situation that he felt would allow him to do that without getting caught.
 
Checkmite said:
Wait...where is this information coming from about the man having "mental health issues" or suggesting that he might be "unfit to plead"? None of the reports I've seen gives any such details about the alleged abductor.

"Opportunistic abductor" to me says the person had a pre-existing desire to kidnap a child and took advantage when presented with a situation that he felt would allow him to do that without getting caught.
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It’s called speculation. You should know it. You do enough of it.
 
Checkmite said:
Sure; I just wanted to know whether this speculation was baseless or actually informed by something.
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It's not a great leap of logic to think someone who abducts a child and holds them captive for days is mentally ill.
 
The Atheist said:
It's not a great leap of logic to think someone who abducts a child and holds them captive for days is mentally ill.
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In the sense that an argument can be made that anyone who commits any violent crime is "mentally ill"; but commenters here seemed to be suggesting something more than that simple axiom. The idea that the suspect might be mentally ill in a way that makes him "unfit for trial" for instance, or in a way that made him unable to understand the consequences of his actions, implies something a little more profound than "you have to be crazy to kidnap a child" does.

Generally speaking, when a male true-stranger kidnaps a child, it only ever turns out to be either for ransom or for physical or sexual abuse. Crime drama television shows occasionally write other motivations for their characters but I'm not aware of any real life instance of kidnapping where it wasn't one of those two motivations.
 
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