Christophera
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I don´t think so because you forget that we have 13 Parties
over here, 6 in national parlament and the rest on local, state
levels. Your understanding seems to suggest that all these
different parties try to fool our citizens.
But i guess you would agree that germany is not ruled by
secret, jewish illuminat-zionism or something, right?
How long has the present party been in control? What was the last part to control and how long was the control it had and did it take control from the party which later took it back? ALT: Are 2 parties tossing control back and forth and the others not getting it?
I would have to say that it has been moved by its politics away from that secret, religious of control. It's media may make it needed for all of the secret control to remain very much in the background. Corporations have no national affiliations, in some ways, so the people dependence on corporations shows how much they control and secret control over them is always present in the economic sectors supporting.
Of course all these different claims could be disinfo. Even
my words could be disinfo. How do you personally know what
is true and what not? If you differ between truth and lies in
a kind of "gov = wrong" and "contra-gubmint = truth" then
you might end up in a world that looks pretty ugly.
What is true works for the people in the long term and what is a lie does not.
But to make an example: You remeber the no-planers, the
space weapons and the pod theory. This misinfo was coming
from truthers like you.
You are generalizing, a cognitive distortion. There are no truthers like me. Not one. I work alone in sharing, for now, I can tell that others are starting to realize that the groupings you generalize are slipping into disbelief as their information continues to fail for the peoples interests over time.
They seem to collect a lot of info and
just chose to adobt anti-gov content and ignore other evidence
that contradicts with their theories.
I agree. And, what they do is about sensationalism and division of the people, just like media. I use raw evidence to qualify official information, and to disqualify it for consistency with the over all in the long term.
As i said. I don´t trust your government, too - but i did not
found any hard evidence for an inside job till now. This
Jowenko CD-Expert didn´t even wonder that the towers
collapsed. So why do ignore this expert who is cited so
often from truthers because his WTC7 statements?
No promoted authority can be trusted. Basically, no one who will use the truth to expose secrets is given power to share on a mass level. I use raw evidence, I know what I'm looking at.
I am honest to you, Christopher - the american academic
world isn´t very interesting for me at all. But i will read a
summary if you know a good article about it.
There is too much fear in academia to use truth in the 9-11 matter.
My point was: Why don´t you sign up in an academic forum
which has the kind of experts you´re criticizing?
The scholars for truth refuse to admit me to any of their forums. I've applied 3 times. Their secretary left becuase of inequities in the membership. All entities of authority are suspect. Only agreement, upon raw evidence. with reason, between people, has meaning.
II don´t live over there so i can´t say for sure if there is some
kind of mind control over there. What i can say is that the
fear- and warmongering looked very suspicious like lying pro-
paganda from my point of view.
9-11 was a death ritual invoking the reptilian mind in the population. Lizards do not work together or protect each others interests. Control the information to keep reasoning of the mammalian instincts and the people are disabled from agreement, unity and action
For example: With the 6 parties in national german parlament:
An incident like the WMD lies would run for MONTHS within
the press and parlament. I know this from much smaller,
political affairs over here - so i have no reason to believe
in any kind of brainwashing. And we also dont have such
political campaigns like in the us where the canidates act
like clowns in a circus and throw mud at each other. The
elections here are pretty boring concerning "mediamarketing"
and we don´t care about BS like: "He has a lesbian daughter"
or something. If someone sucks, the media and voters rips
him apart.
Good to hear. I hope some German media corporations start buying satellite time to provide alternative news about America from Germany with traditional german editorializations.
I would like to hear the "skeptics"-thoughts in here about
that. For me it looks like there is much truth in your thoughts
about it. Even if i don´t think the media was part of an
inside job.
The media and courts of America are completely controlled and have been for 20 years.
But what do you think about the hijackers confessions? They
actually say "We will do it". Off course i know the articles about
"Atta was addicted" and such stuff but there are million of
details about him that contradicts with this one story. Who
do you tend to believe? Same goes to the other Hijackers,
it´s very well investigated and the "official (worldwide)"
media coverage is pretty plausible if you took the time to
look into it.
Mind control (you don't know about that) and creation/promotion of authority.
So you say that muslim people can´t be angry about america?
Well, if i look into iraq i get pretty angry and if i would live
over there, i would at least wish the us-gov to go to hell.
You may look into these 40 minutes to understand their
intentions. (You have to consider the historical backgrounds
of their countries, too.)
No, Muslims have every reason to be angry with America. America has not acted to secure its information system, vital to its democracy, and through the resulting ignorance and manipulations of its cultures, has lost control of the democracy while the republic is dismantled. From that condition has resulted 9-11 as a false flag reason for war on Muslim countries.
Do you think they thought about collateral damage if they
blew up the towers? Do you think they were too dumb to
crash a real plane into Shanksville or the pentagon?
Both mentions of planes are immaterial to the deciding events and so are distractive. Each has it's own purposes, whatever they were. There seems to be evidence that there was a plane 93 somewhere. it may not have been what hit the ground. Here is its role in the WTC.
http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1207667
For me the Photo looks weird but on the other hand i would
suppose that there was a lot of airpressure during the collapse
What do you think about his expert views?
Air pressure = nonsense. This is high explosives, well contained and distributed.
Jowenko = nonsense.