But again, I know there must be deeply rooted power sources that have elements of control that have constant sway over public perceptions.
I don´t think so because you forget that we have 13 Parties
over here, 6 in national parlament and the rest on local, state
levels. Your understanding seems to suggest that all these
different parties try to fool our citizens.
But i guess you would agree that germany is not ruled by
secret, jewish illuminat-zionism or something, right?
You have a point, but then on the other hand all the "weird stuff" of free speech could be fake just to confuse people. I've seen enough to know it's not real. So, ... what is it? Where does it come from?
Off course all these different claims could be disinfo. Even
my words could be disinfo. How do you personally know what
is true and what not? If you differ between truth and lies in
a kind of "gov = wrong" and "contra-gubmint = truth" then
you might end up in a world that looks pretty ugly.
But to make an example: You remeber the no-planers, the
space weapons and the pod theory. This misinfo was coming
from truthers like you. They seem to collect a lot of info and
just chose to adobt anti-gov content and ignore other evidence
that contradicts with their theories.
As i said. I don´t trust your government, too - but i did not
found any hard evidence for an inside job till now. This
Jowenko CD-Expert didn´t even wonder that the towers
collapsed. So why do ignore this expert who is cited so
often from truthers because his WTC7 statements?
If you think my prejudice is in the way, try American academia. Try the "non profit world" (they suck up to academia but are "corporate") you will be astounded at what they "think" they know. Just try doing something real. Just once, you will see.
Only the people can change anything, I'm communicating with them.
I am honest to you, Christopher - the american academic
world isn´t very interesting for me at all. But i will read a
summary if you know a good article about it.
My point was: Why don´t you sign up in an academic forum
which has the kind of experts you´re criticizing?
Your post epitomizes the problem with conceptualizing understanding mind control. Meaning that the subject is too deep for this thread and perhaps your individual experience. Examine the text of this page, consider the widespread implications for one side of the brain operating completely independent and unknown to the other.
http://members.tripod.com/truthasaur/twominds1.html
I don´t live over there so i can´t say for sure if there is some
kind of mind control over there. What i can say is that the
fear- and warmongering looked very suspicious like lying pro-
paganda from my point of view.
For example: With the 6 parties in national german parlament:
An incident like the WMD lies would run for MONTHS within
the press and parlament. I know this from much smaller,
political affairs over here - so i have no reason to believe
in any kind of brainwashing. And we also dont have such
political campaigns like in the us where the canidates act
like clowns in a circus and throw mud at each other. The
elections here are pretty boring concerning "mediamarketing"
and we don´t care about BS like: "He has a lesbian daughter"
or something. If someone sucks, the media and voters rips
him apart.
As far as the media issue, you are AT LEAST completely right. It is probably worse than you imply, completely owned and Americans cannot believe that it s so controlled.
I would like to hear the "skeptics"-thoughts in here about
that. For me it looks like there is much truth in your thoughts
about it. Even if i don´t think the media was part of an
inside job.
I too believe that Muslims did fly the planes. I think they had help with the hijackings. The towers coming down had nothing to do with planes or fires. The planes and fires were put in the mix to create a reason for war against the peoples of the religion of the pilots.
But what do you think about the
hijackers confessions? They
actually say "We will do it". Off course i know the articles about
"Atta was addicted" and such stuff but there are million of
details about him that contradicts with this one story. Who
do you tend to believe? Same goes to the other Hijackers,
it´s very well investigated and the "official (worldwide)"
media coverage is pretty plausible if you took the time to
look into it.
I do not believe that the majority of those people of those religions approved in any way of 9-11. My theory is that the pilots were mind controlled to do what they did. See my response to your previous paragraph on mind control.
So you say that muslim people can´t be angry about america?
Well, if i look into iraq i get pretty angry and if i would live
over there, i would at least wish the us-gov to go to hell.
You may look into
these 40 minutes to understand their
intentions. (You have to consider the historical backgrounds
of their countries, too.)
If you start at the bottom with towers of that height they fall on surrounding buildings and create massive collateral damage. As it was things were somewhat contained which decreases the need for private investigation. Can there be any doubt that
THIS is done by high explosives.
Do you think they thought about collateral damage if they
blew up the towers? Do you think they were too dumb to
crash a real plane into Shanksville or the pentagon?
For me the Photo looks weird but on the other hand i would
suppose that there was a lot of airpressure during the collapse
that forces the relatively "small" building parts away from the
collapse zone - and considering this, it does not look so
suspicious anymore. You also may take into account that
we never saw such a high building collapse. But again - even
"WTC was a controlled demolition"-Jowenko said that
the towers looks nothing like CD and he also didn´t even
wonder that they collapse.
Here´s the full video of him:
(His comments about WTC1&2 starting at 00h31m40s)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6624447947169635420&q=dutch+9/11+duration:long
What do you think about his expert views?