Christianity is a grotesque blight!

Little 10 Toes said:
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Generally speaking, self-sacrifice is voluntary while human sacrifice is not.
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(1) Watch the video

(2) So Jesus was a human sacrifice... and so was the 7 grandsons of Saul and the entire family of Achan... QED!!!


Little 10 Toes said:
You could even put in "for the greater good" for a self-sacrifice.
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If the "greater good" is to supplicate to YHWH to stave off a famine... or to get YHWH to resume participating in Genocide and Ethnic cleansing.... then it is a human sacrifice.



Little 10 Toes said:
Would someone ritualistically push you in front of a truck? Or did you purposely jump in front of the truck to save your wife?
So this example (or lack thereof) (talking about saving your wife) is not a human sacrifice. It is a sacrifice that a human made.
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(1) evidently you did not understand my post

(2) Yes... you are right... me jumping in front of a truck to save my wife is a self-sacrifice... which is what my post... that you did not understand... said.

(3) You are wrong... if I willingly go to die so as to save FROM GOD's WRATH the entire people whom I don't even know... or even future people... then THIS IS a human sacrifice.



Little 10 Toes said:
Let's look at David and the 7 grandsons ...
For Achen, there's no human sacrifice mentioned.
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Goodness gracious!!!

I suggest you read this post and this post for a thorough riving to smithereens of your above mistaken arguments.

In a few words... you are wrong!!!


Little 10 Toes said:
What's your spin on Deuteronomy 5:9?
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,". One could say that there is a set of laws for crimes against God and another for crimes against people.
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Great... so Saul's grandsons did not commit any crime neither against the jealous infanticidal revenge killer YHWH nor against people... and Saul who was COMMANDED by YHWH to genocide and ethnically cleanse Canaan was only doing crimes commanded by YHWH and participated in by YHWH against people not against YHWH.

And Achan kept some of the BOOTY and LOOT and PLUNDER that YHWH wanted for himself when YHWH was doing the crimes of genocide and ethnic cleansing and rapine and plunder against the people of of Canaan.

And YHWH got JEALOUS and WENT AWOL and DESERTED his post during the war crimes and caused the death of many of his fellow War Criminals... instead of being shot as a traitor he demanded the human sacrifice of Achan who kept for himself some of the booty YHWH had so much avarice and greed and lust for... but not just Achan alone, no... his entire family and possessions and animals.

This is called human sacrifice.

And in the case of Jesus... YHWH raped a married young girl to impregnate her to make a son so that 30 years later he can COMMAND him ... Jesus begged and groveled and wept tears of blood while rubbing his face in dirt to have YHWH relent... to go become a human sacrifice.
 
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Leumas said:
instead of being shot as a traitor he demanded the human sacrifice of Achan who kept for himself some of the booty YHWH had so much avarice and greed and lust for... but not just Achan alone, no... his entire family and possessions and animals.

This is called human sacrifice.
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No, it isn't. It's called punishment. You can argue about whether it was deserved, but please don't twist words to mean something they don't. It's not helping your argument.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
No, it isn't. It's called punishment. You can argue about whether it was deserved, but please don't twist words to mean something they don't. It's not helping your argument.
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No it is not... it is human sacrifice...

(1) read the verses and this post... did you read it or even the verses? I will bet that you have not.

(2) punishment is as YHWH commanded only to the sinner not the children and wives and animals and possessions of the sinner... and to be burned in a valley and a monument placed over their ashes that is left standing "till today"

I suggest you read this post (and this)... you evidently have not read it... and the verses... it is evident you have not.

And read this
  • Deuteronomy 24:16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.

Also read this

Human Sacrifice

the offering of the life of a human being to a deity.
The occurrence of human sacrifice can usually be related to the recognition of human blood as the sacred life force. Bloodless forms of killing, however, such as strangulation and drowning, have been used in some cultures. The killing of a human being, or the substitution of an animal for a person, has often been part of an attempt to commune with a god and to participate in divine life. Human life, as the most valuable material for sacrifice, has also been offered in an attempt at expiation.
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Mediocrity is insidiously pernicious.

Mediocrity is as antagonistic to excellence and progress as conservatism and tribalism are to progressiveness... and is as pernicious to liberty and rationality as theism (e.g. Christianity).

Ayan Rand said:
Mediocrity does not mean an average intelligence; it means an average intelligence that resents and envies its betters.
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The mediocre are not only pathetically envious, they are also an insidious impediment to the progress of society.

Consider this video promoting striving for excellence... and contrast it to this video meant to ridicule and deride striving for self-improvement.

If aspiring for excellence is thwarted by the mediocre as we can see has already occurred in many societies nowadays, the result is indeed the pervasive and pernicious regression and retardation we see permeating those societies today.

If conformity to the tribal norms is dictated and imposed and enforced, then the results are impediments to rationality and progress of humanity such as Jehovah Witnesses and Mormonism and Catholicism and Islam and Hasidism.



 
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In your own words Leumas, please give a summary of the two videos.

Edit: i've heard/seen many people here mention that they won't blindly click on YouTube links

You mention, "many societies" and, "those societies". Which societies are you referring to?
 
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Are...are you quoting Ayn Rand (note spelling) as someone to listen to?

Are you a fan of Rand?
 
Leumas said:
Consider this video promoting striving for excellence... and contrast it to this video meant to ridicule and deride striving for self-improvement.
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The first video is promoting a product, not the strive for excellence. It's intended to make parents worry they are letting their child down if they don't buy it. The second video is just meant to be absurd humour, unless self-improvement means learning one big word and repeating it hundreds of times per day to impress or intimidate your workmates.
 
This sounds like a thread to avoid, and I think I'll just get the popcorn out for this one, but I would suggest that if you start with a tendentious redefinition by Ayn Rand, you're asking for trouble.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
The first video is promoting a product, not the strive for excellence. It's intended to make parents worry they are letting their child down if they don't buy it. The second video is just meant to be absurd humour, unless self-improvement means learning one big word and repeating it hundreds of times per day to impress or intimidate your workmates.
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It's interesting that in the second video, the word "ascertain" is used in ways that take away from clarity. In what way is an advanced vocabulary excellent if using it causes one to be unclear?
 
bruto said:
This sounds like a thread to avoid, and I think I'll just get the popcorn out for this one, but I would suggest that if you start with a tendentious redefinition by Ayn Rand, you're asking for trouble.
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I find that Rand has a tendency to be used as a refuge for the mediocre.
 
Little 10 Toes said:
In your own words Leumas, please give a summary of the two videos.

Edit: i've heard/seen many people here mention that they won't blindly click on YouTube links

You mention, "many societies" and, "those societies". Which societies are you referring to?
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I think Leumas is saying the Kids in the Hall are mediocre, envious of excellence, and an overall drag on civilization.
 
theprestige said:
I think Leumas is saying the Kids in the Hall are mediocre, envious of excellence, and an overall drag on civilization.
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Or maybe that early '90s sketch shows were a pinnacle of excellence, their reputation now only dragged down by the envious spite of newer, less funny shows.
 
Look upon this video and then upon this

zooterkin said:
Who he?
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That's just how they pronounce it in Tennessee. No big gee whiz.

Unless it's a typo for Aryan, as is quite possible in threads of this kind. Now that would be scary. Medium scary, of course.
 
Gotta say, not exactly an intellectually engaging topic. Are posters expected to challenge the premise, rebutting that mediocrity is in fact the bee's knees of philosophical stances?
 
Craig4 said:
It's interesting that in the second video, the word "ascertain" is used in ways that take away from clarity. In what way is an advanced vocabulary excellent if using it causes one to be unclear?
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I think that's a big part of the joke. The employee character isn't a guy who's too smart to fit in with his co-workers or has a large vocabulary. He's learned one "big" word and over-uses it even when it's not the right word. It's also funny that his co-workers would actually complain to management about that, but we can sympathize with how annoying they would find it. He's an insidiously pernicious mediocrity (an entirely fictional one of course).

Now, we could talk about a different hypothetical scenario, where a guy really does have a lot of knowledge and a large vocabulary but has to moderate his usage of it in order to communicate clearly and/or fit in socially with his co-workers. We could decry such imposed mediocrity, but should we? I'll let the OP clarify his position if he wishes, before posting my own opinions based on life experience. My posting style here is pretty similar to my natural vocabulary and speech patterns, and I've worked on loading docks and factory floors.
 
I feel like Andrew Tate is about to start asking me how many Bugatti's I have.
 
Thermal said:
Gotta say, not exactly an intellectually engaging topic. Are posters expected to challenge the premise, rebutting that mediocrity is in fact the bee's knees of philosophical stances?
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I wouldn't call it the bee's knees, but I think it unjustly gets a bad rap - especially in the OP.

Most people are average at best.

Society is kept afloat not by the few excellent people doing excellent things, but by the masses of average people doing their average best.

The OP is just indulging in the same misanthropy that prompts people to regret extending voting rights to the "stupid" or the religious.
 
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