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Ed Christianity Foments Villainy

Myriad said:
But he was so outraged and disgusted over having to eat food and kill animals to obtain food that he refused to do it. Instead he insisted on absorbing energy directly from sunlight instead, until he got sunburn and skin cancer, then died of constipation because he also refused to poop, that being beneath his dignity.

That's what would have happened but no one paid him anything because food was so plentiful anyhow, so he didn't make any money. Then he listened to B and learned to resent and despise his own nature and that of the world he lived in, so he dwelt in the basement of his parents' tent, hearing pathetic perfidious slander in every breath of the desert winds, and responding in kind with a stylus in the sand, because the Internet wasn't invented yet.
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:D
 
Leumas said:
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With apologies to Steven Weinberg
  • Religion Christianity is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion Christianity.




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With respect to Steven Weinberg, either generations of Russian and Chinese communists were all evil people, or communism is a kind of religion.
 
Leumas said:
It is your post ... the stuff in yellow is cultist stuff... the stuff stricken out is not nice stuff... or does not apply because it is not from the NT.
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The "cultist stuff" is nice stuff. It meets your requirement. Don't move the goalposts just because acbytesla has scored a goal according to the rules you laid out.

And the stuff stricken out is all pretty clearly nice stuff.
 
Leumas said:
Let me give you a parable so that you might see but not perceive.... just like Jesus :D
Four people walking down road.... they come across a carrion...
"A": Says let's share it
"B": says are you crazy it is fetid and rife with filth I want nothing to do with it
"C": says ok and takes 1/3rd and starts cutting away the putrid parts trimming away the obviously filthy stuff and cooks it and eats it.
"A": takes his 1/3rd and proceeds to eat it raw ignoring the filth and muck.
"D": takes his 1/3rd and picks the filth and gunk and starts eating that and then grabs a passerby and SELLS him the relatively cleaner 1/3rd of the carrion​
Can you collate the persons in order of who is least disgusting to most disgusting???
Do you affirm that there was filth and muck in the carrion but prefer to remind us that there was good meat still there???​
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Little 10 Toes said:
Define disgusting.. What and/or who's standards are you judging?
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Leumas said:
Disgusting is what the dictionary says it is ... and the standard IS YOURS.... you are the one answering the question.
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disgusting: arousing revulsion or strong indignation.

In your "story" no one is disgusting.

A is starving and needs food badly
B is a vegetarian
C is hungry, but still has limits on what they will eat
D is hungry, but also knows that others may need food.
 
Little 10 Toes said:
disgusting: arousing revulsion or strong indignation.

In your my "story" no one is disgusting.

A is starving and needs food badly
B is a vegetarian
C is hungry, but still has limits on what they will eat
D is hungry, but also knows that others may need food.
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IFTFY...

Good stuff :thumbsup:.... except ... that is your story not mine after all the additions you did to it.
 
Leumas said:
I am convinced that you indeed do....


However... can you please tell me...


Do you think that it is ok for person to believe that a mass murderer can be in heaven while the people he massacred can be in hell?
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Of course, the mass murderer learned through time travel that there was a room full of eventual Hitlers, and proceeded to massacre the lot of them--he/she belongs in hypothetical heaven while the Hitlers go to the hypothetical hell.
 
stanfr said:
Leumas said:
stanfr said:
Of course, there are nuances--since there is a popular parable that speaks to that very question (verse escapes me) in which the person who says 'yeah i'll go clean the bathroom, honey' and then leaves it a mess, enters the 'kingdom of heaven' long after the person who says "no way, I'm busy" and then cleans it up anyways.
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I would be very interested in the verse reference...
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Parable of two sons: Matthew 21:28-32
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Thanks for that... :thumbsup:

I am going to dissect that parable later in the other thread ... but... for now... have you ever read the other nuance of the christian faith in James 2:25... where a traitorous treasonous prostitute who betrayed her people and aided and abetted the enemy who extirpated her people to the last man woman and child and even animals and razed her city to smithereens... also is saved and gets to go to heaven for ever while her massacred people get to spend eternity being tortured in hell.
 
Little 10 Toes said:
No, it your story. I asked by whose standards should I judge, you said mine. If you don't like the answers that are given, maybe you should ask better questions.
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No... you asked to define disgusting and by what standards to judge the characters.

Your standards does not mean you make up claptrap and add it to the story and then judge your made up "alternative facts" claptrap.

Is that what you would do if you were a juror on a trial... you acquit the murderer because you made up some story to add to the facts of the case so as to acquit him??

By sanity's standards that kind of shenanigans is irrational to the extreme.
 
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stanfr said:
Of course, the mass murderer learned through time travel that there was a room full of eventual Hitlers, and proceeded to massacre the lot of them--he/she belongs in hypothetical heaven while the Hitlers go to the hypothetical hell.
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Amusing SciFi... but your fairy tale is proven to be not reality ... by reality itself... because no one did that to the Hitler of reality... so your imagination is fine and dandy... but does not answer the question because it is made up claptrap that is proven false by the facts of reality.

ETA: the time police would have either killed the mass murderer before or after he cause a rift in the timeline.... so even the time police think he is a nasty guy.
 
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Leumas said:
No... you asked to define disgusting and by what standards to judge the characters.

Your standards does not mean you make up claptrap and add it to the story and then judge your made up "alternative facts" claptrap.

Is that what you would do if you were a juror on a trial... you acquit the murderer because you made up some story to add to the facts of the case so as to acquit him??

By sanity's standards that kind of shenanigans is irrational to the extreme.
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You mean we aren’t allowed to compound claptrap? That’s gonna make the discussion pretty boring.
 
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