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Chocolate Jesus Exhibit Canceled

Darth Rotor said:
Riddle me this, Batman.

Whence this obsession with Jesus' dick among iconoclastic, (atheist?)secularist artists?

DR
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irritating those most likely to demand exhibition be shut down - so publicity follows. Old, honorable trick.
 
Ziggurat said:
Abstract art made from rotting material? No thanks. The chocolate jesus isn't abstract, though. Neither was "Piss Christ", a banal exercise in controversy if I ever saw one. Modern art of that variety is a joke.
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Can you be specific about what you don't like about such works?
 
Darth Rotor said:
Riddle me this, Batman.

Whence this obsession with Jesus' dick among iconoclastic, (atheist?)secularist artists?
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:confused:

It seems to me that me that it's the Christians that have an obsession with genitalia. The writer of the article is presumably Christian, and he went out of his way to mention it. The Catholic guy is also up in arms against it. Christians go out of their way to cover Jesus' privates up, but only just barely, drawing even more attention to them. How is a statue that treats a penis like every other part of the body evidence of an obsession? If this is the most important part of the story for you, then isn't it you that has an obsession?
 
Art Vandelay said:
:confused:

It seems to me that me that it's the Christians that have an obsession with genitalia. The writer of the article is presumably Christian, and he went out of his way to mention it. The Catholic guy is also up in arms against it. Christians go out of their way to cover Jesus' privates up, but only just barely, drawing even more attention to them. How is a statue that treats a penis like every other part of the body evidence of an obsession? If this is the most important part of the story for you, then isn't it you that has an obsession?
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Not me, pal. I am not Catholic. I want to know why it is considered art to depict Jesus nude. What makes this special? Why does the juxtaposition of Jesus and nude beckon the artistic iconoclast?

There are loads of nude statues, of men and women. What makes it so compelling to do Jesus, a symbol, nude? Jesus isn't about physical perfection, but about spiritual perfection. He wasn't Mr Olympia.

What's the big deal with his dick? Why is the loincloth convention not good enough? Why not do Jesus dressed in Centurion's armor? In a Tux? In jeans and a T-shirt? In a tutu and ballet slippers?

Art deliberately tries to get one's attention by presenting a symbol or a figure easily recognized in a different way.

So, Art, what's the deal with the dick? (Yes, bad pun)

PS: you stink as an amateur psychologist.

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
I want to know why it is considered art to depict Jesus nude.
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For the same reason it's art to create a sculpture of David nude. Or paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel with nude figures.

Why does the juxtaposition of Jesus and nude beckon the artistic iconoclast?
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Write to the artist and ask.

What makes it so compelling to do Jesus, a symbol, nude?
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Again. Ask the artist. He can have any number of motivations.

Jesus isn't about physical perfection, but about spiritual perfection. He wasn't Mr Olympia.
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I don't see how that matters, but ok.

What's the big deal with his dick?
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Exactly!! Whats the big deal?

Why not do Jesus dressed in Centurion's armor? In a Tux? In jeans and a T-shirt? In a tutu and ballet slippers?
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I think you should go for it. You might get some recognition, if it's executed in an interesting way.
 
Darth Rotor said:
What makes this special?
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Indeed. What makes it special? As you say, there are loads of nude statues. What makes this special?

Why does the juxtaposition of Jesus and nude beckon the artistic iconoclast?
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Methinks that you don't understand what "juxtaposition" means.

What makes it so compelling to do Jesus, a symbol, nude?
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What's so compelling about Jesus with a loincloth? Why do Catholics surround themselves with depictions of him, but have a hissy fit when someone makes a depiction of him that they don't like?

you stink as an amateur psychologist.
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I wasn't practicing psychology. Simply making an obvious conclusion. Do you have a rebuttal? While are you focusing on this particular part of the story, if you're not obsessed with it?
 
Darth Rotor said:
Not me, pal. I am not Catholic. I want to know why it is considered art to depict Jesus nude. What makes this special? Why does the juxtaposition of Jesus and nude beckon the artistic iconoclast?
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The reaction detailed in the op should explain why it appeals to the iconoclast, whats the point of being an iconoclast if you don't piss people off?

Why is the loincloth convention not good enough?
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Well, you could ask Richard Herring, who did depict Jesus in a loincloth on stage (or rather he directed Jesus in a loincloth on stage, I'm not sure who the actor was), the fundamentalist group "Christian Voice" put out a press release that the loincloth was actually a nappy (diaper for Americans), the press went up in arms and death threats followed. Following conventions is no protection seemingly.
 
I can't imagine why people would think the Romans would be cruel enough to crucify someone, but so concerned for their modesty they'd let them keep their underpants on.

For a religion that (at least the mainstream flavors) is based on the idea that Jesus was both human and divine, Christians sure don't like any evidence suggesting Jesus's human side. It seems like they'd prefer a eunuch Jesus. Oh, he was completely human...except he died a virgin with his underpants on. And he probably never had to use the bathroom, or had morning breath, or had body odor. Clean, antiseptic Jesus. No sins, no dirt.

Hell, that's not a human/god combo. That's a cartoon character. And not even a good one. The whole religion is based on a Mary Sue fanfiction!
 
People, people...you are missing the point.

Or, rather, a great opportunity.

They now have an extra large chunk of chocolate they don't want.

Two words: "Chocolate Challenge".
 
"You got your Messiah in my chocolate!"
"You got your chocolate on my Messiah!"

Mmmm. Sacrilicious.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Whence this obsession with Jesus' dick among iconoclastic, (atheist?)secularist artists?

DR
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You could ask the same question of devout Catholics.

If someone cares so little about nailing a human being to a wooden cross, crowning them with thorns and poking them in the side with a spear, I seriously doubt that they would care if he had a loincloth on. As a matter of fact, I believe nakedidity would probably have been the first thing they would have done (not too many people look very threatening without clothing).

Darth Rotor said:
Juevos.

Get a clue.

DR
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BTW, it's Huevos. :)
 
Art Vandelay said:
I wasn't practicing psychology. Simply making an obvious conclusion. Do you have a rebuttal? While are you focusing on this particular part of the story, if you're not obsessed with it?
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You don't seem to know how to use the word "obsessed" correctly, but nice try at overstatement, Art.

Look at my post count. I tend to get into conversations here about a lot of stuff.

I am not an artist. My questions on this are directed at the matter of art and message. See the first post, and get your stereotyping out of the conversation, if you please.

I think fuelair is the closest to "right" in answering the mail.

@ Tony: David was in part a political sculpture. (According to our tour guide in Florence.) Nudes were certainly popular then, and Florence was having some rivalry with Sienna and a few other cities in central Italy. If you take a good hard look at the statue, you see that beyond its approach to a study in perfection of the male form, the hands are deliberately oversized.

The hands.

The subtle (or not so subtle) message was that the artists, artisans and builders of Florence were superior to those of their rivals, and that the work of their hands would keep their city on top. (IIRC there was a martial aspect to this theme, but memory is foggy.)

Such subtlety seems to be lacking in the example under discussion.

DR
 
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Mephisto said:
You could ask the same question of devout Catholics.
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You meant the folks who are foaming at the mouth over this? Yes, I suppose so. But since they have already spoken up, I guess I should dig around and see if the artist released any commentary on the piece.
BTW, it's Huevos. :)
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Perhaps my use of slang is a sign of sloppiness.
The Urban Dictionary said:
1. juevos

Spanish for eggs, also slang for testicles

Chupa mi juevos

Suck my balls
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You are technically correct, though I've been using the j spelling for some time.

Booo me.

DR
 
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